General Harley Davidson Chat Forum to discuss general Harley Davidson issues, topics, and experiences.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

WHEN ARE MOTORCYCLIST ?????

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 23, 2008 | 11:55 AM
  #171  
OldFenderGuy's Avatar
OldFenderGuy
Ultimate HDF Member
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 8,641
Likes: 26
From: Ozark Country
Default RE: WHEN ARE MOTORCYCLIST ?????

ORIGINAL: celticgent

ORIGINAL: HarleyForeverFLHX


Do you have any idea how many accidents are in America a year? Now go see how many motorcycle accident ? Good GOD ! If people knew when they got in there car "IF THE ACCIDENT WAS NEGLITENT " that they would do jail time, you can bet the accident rate would disappear. Your DAM RIGHT I think she should go to jail.
if your theory was correct, we wouldn't have anybody in jail for murder...

people know that if they murder someone they could go to jail and/or be put to death...

murder rates are still on the rise, though, aren't they?

How dare you try to flaw this endless bickering with a logical statement such as that....

You are banned from any further posting....


Just kiddin'

 
Old Jan 23, 2008 | 12:28 PM
  #172  
99octane's Avatar
99octane
Road Warrior
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,437
Likes: 0
From:
Default RE: WHEN ARE MOTORCYCLIST ?????

I fear this thread has long survived its usefulness.

 
Old Jan 23, 2008 | 01:50 PM
  #173  
HarleyForeverFLHX's Avatar
HarleyForeverFLHX
Thread Starter
|
Banned
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 208
Likes: 5
From:
Default RE: WHEN ARE MOTORCYCLIST ?????

The local and state governments don't want to get involved with accidents as far as blame and sentencing. The attorneys will be dragged in and it all turns into a mess like everything else. The point of the lady getting off was this. Unless you can prove the lady intended to run that Harley over, then no law was broken other than running a red light. It's way to hard to prove she wasn't paying attention and ran it. she could say she fainted or the sun blinded her. the list can go on and on for ever. We've got a real problem in America today with traffic. But take a look at other countries. Take Japan. Have you seen the traffic in Japan ?
Best thing to do is for someone to put the stupid bitch in the grave. The lady kills two people and walks. Now if you want to talk about changing laws, well that's another story. How about if you were "Negligent " and cause an accident where people are hurt or killed , your brought before court and tried. Well we might make that work. The bottom line is , something has to change in our system or people will keep getting away with accidents like this over and over.
Im open to suggestions.
 
Old Jan 23, 2008 | 01:59 PM
  #174  
DeJavu's Avatar
DeJavu
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 3,306
Likes: 5
From: Bellville, Tx
Default RE: WHEN ARE MOTORCYCLIST ?????

What happened to involuntarymanslaughter? Seems there are penalties for that.
Guess the best you can do is telecommute, Home school and have UPS do the driving for all your needs.
I have driven in Japan and the top speed in cities is about 10 mph in average traffic, if you're lucky.
 
Old Jan 23, 2008 | 02:02 PM
  #175  
HarleyForeverFLHX's Avatar
HarleyForeverFLHX
Thread Starter
|
Banned
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 208
Likes: 5
From:
Default RE: WHEN ARE MOTORCYCLIST ?????

ORIGINAL: DeJavu

What happened to involuntarymanslaughter? Seems there are penalties for that.
Guess the best you can do is telecommute, Home school and have UPS do the driving for all your needs.
I have driven in Japan and the top speed in cities is about 10 mph in average traffic, if you're lucky.
So your saying the speeds in cities should be slower ? How about 25mph ? I would be willing to bet thousands of lives would be saved.
 
Old Jan 23, 2008 | 02:06 PM
  #176  
antrome's Avatar
antrome
Cruiser
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 160
Likes: 0
From: New Mexico
Default RE: WHEN ARE MOTORCYCLIST ?????

Fighting over a cell phone! Sounds like negligance resulting in great bodily inury to me.
The drunk driver who killed my son got an extra 10 years for negligance resulting in great bodily harm due to some broken bones that my sons girlfriend recieved.

Kolni- sorry that you feel that way about MADD. If they can prevent somone else from having to endure what my family has been through then they are certainly friends of mine !
 
Old Jan 23, 2008 | 02:27 PM
  #177  
99_percenter's Avatar
99_percenter
Road Warrior
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,316
Likes: 0
From: Watauga TX
Default RE: WHEN ARE MOTORCYCLIST ?????

ORIGINAL: 99octane

I fear this thread has long survived its usefulness.

in most forums .. handguns / cars / fishing etc .... by the end of the second page... its just folks picking at each other, seldom on topic
any longer. but then again ... its wintertime in a harley forum... <snork>

99%r
 
Old Jan 23, 2008 | 03:02 PM
  #178  
Kolni's Avatar
Kolni
Banned
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 7,292
Likes: 13
From: Sacramento California!!!
Default RE: WHEN ARE MOTORCYCLIST ?????

ORIGINAL: sniper77

It has nothing to do with wanting to hear the keys rattle on the computer, it has to do with people trying to assign blame for their and other's behavior on an inanimate object such as a cell phone.
I agree. We have radios, phones, CB's even DVD players in cars now.

Plenty of people do and can operate those and a car at the same time without ever causing an accident.

Even cops in my area drive and talk on the phone at the same time. So it ain't the phone (or the radio,cb,dvd) but rather the driver. And these are the same people that get distracted by any pretty shiney object.
 
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

6 Weirdest Harley-Davidsons Ever Sold to the Public

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

 Joe Kucinski
Old Jan 23, 2008 | 03:10 PM
  #179  
Kolni's Avatar
Kolni
Banned
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 7,292
Likes: 13
From: Sacramento California!!!
Default RE: WHEN ARE MOTORCYCLIST ?????

ORIGINAL: HarleyForeverFLHX
The point of the lady getting off was this. Unless you can prove the lady intended to run that Harley over, then no law was broken other than running a red light.
Yup, that's is exactly right and the way it should be. She had no intention of hurting anyone, that is why it is called an "accident".


Best thing to do is for someone to put the stupid bitch in the grave.
WOW, now you are suggesting we KILL people for causing an accident? Are you serious?

How about if you were "Negligent " and cause an accident where people are hurt or killed , your brought before court and tried.
Tried for what exactly?

What current laws apply in these cases?

Not laws you WANT to have, but current laws.

Well we might make that work. The bottom line is , something has to change in our system or people will keep getting away with accidents like this over and over.
Im open to suggestions.
People die every year, no one gets out alive.

And we have given you suggestions, you weren't open to any of them.

You keep talking about jail time for accidents, but you never tell me how we are gonna pay for all these new jails (since the population would climb by at least 25%).

And finally, have you ever had an accident yourself?
 
Old Jan 23, 2008 | 03:12 PM
  #180  
Kolni's Avatar
Kolni
Banned
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 7,292
Likes: 13
From: Sacramento California!!!
Default RE: WHEN ARE MOTORCYCLIST ?????

ORIGINAL: HarleyForeverFLHX
So your saying the speeds in cities should be slower ? How about 25mph ? I would be willing to bet thousands of lives would be saved.
Yeah, and if we made all cars and motorcycles illegal even MORE lives would be saved!

Then we can out law guns...and kinives...and peanutbutter! (lots of people have peanut allergies)

If it saves just ONE child!
 



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:40 AM.

story-0
6 Weirdest Harley-Davidsons Ever Sold to the Public

Slideshow: From military-inspired singles to scooters and three-wheel utility vehicles, these Harleys took the company far outside its comfort zone.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-02 18:34:10


VIEW MORE
story-1
7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson built its reputation on nostalgia, but every so often, the company took a hard left turn into the future.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 11:18:19


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-6
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-7
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE