Helmet laws.
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From: Amherst, VA
RE: Helmet laws.
ORIGINAL: 99_percenter
Its the law... but it dont have JACK to do with your safety .. its a HUGE moneygenerating operation ...
Speaking of kids .... you ever seen a seatbelt on a school bus? <shrug>
99%r
ORIGINAL: golfblues
So I don't get into a argument with my son. It's the law, put it on! I like it when my son & daughter wear seat belts in their car. I've seen too many parents lose their kids in accidents when they never had a chance because they weren't wearing a seat belt. Wear it, it's the law!
Just from a parents point of view. If it steps on others toes, sorry, but thats my take.
ORIGINAL: Yellotang
2 people posted that they think helmet laws should be manditory, yet no response as to why?
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2 people posted that they think helmet laws should be manditory, yet no response as to why?
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Just from a parents point of view. If it steps on others toes, sorry, but thats my take.
Speaking of kids .... you ever seen a seatbelt on a school bus? <shrug>
99%r
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RE: Helmet laws.
Agreed. Once you consent to this right or that becoming a "prviledge" they continue to chip away. If you were to show an engineer a hypotheticalformula of a modern jet passenger airliner's fuel, capacity, and combustion processes, the engineer would do the calculations and conclude the formula is for a bomb! Ban airplanes now? Again, anything can be translated to favor or dicredit any opnion.
ORIGINAL: Yellotang
What I find frustrating is, these laws to protect you are the same laws that make it easier to push through newer laws to protect you. For example, it would be dang near impossible to ban all cars, boats and motorcycles right now. But if you do it a little at a time, eventually it will happen. First take away the right to choose to wear a helmet, then the right to wear a 1/2 helmet (see my thread on wa state full helmet proposal) then the right to wear black, then the right to ride. It is always in baby steps and that is what the government wants to do is regulate the American people. We have too many rights that are being turned into "Privlidges" The bill of rights was written with the expressed belief that we have rights and they are not to be infringed upon. But our government in their infinite wisdom is taking our rights away.
When will it stop? Not until we are not allowed to go pee without some form of government endorsed permission.
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What I find frustrating is, these laws to protect you are the same laws that make it easier to push through newer laws to protect you. For example, it would be dang near impossible to ban all cars, boats and motorcycles right now. But if you do it a little at a time, eventually it will happen. First take away the right to choose to wear a helmet, then the right to wear a 1/2 helmet (see my thread on wa state full helmet proposal) then the right to wear black, then the right to ride. It is always in baby steps and that is what the government wants to do is regulate the American people. We have too many rights that are being turned into "Privlidges" The bill of rights was written with the expressed belief that we have rights and they are not to be infringed upon. But our government in their infinite wisdom is taking our rights away.
When will it stop? Not until we are not allowed to go pee without some form of government endorsed permission.
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From: Danbury CT
RE: Helmet laws.
ORIGINAL: Yellotang
Do you object to adults making their own choice when it comes to seat belts and helmets?
ORIGINAL: golfblues
So I don't get into a argument with my son. It's the law, put it on! I like it when my son & daughter wear seat belts in their car. I've seen too many parents lose their kids in accidents when they never had a chance because they weren't wearing a seat belt. Wear it, it's the law!
Just from a parents point of view. If it steps on others toes, sorry, but thats my take.
ORIGINAL: Yellotang
2 people posted that they think helmet laws should be manditory, yet no response as to why?
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2 people posted that they think helmet laws should be manditory, yet no response as to why?
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Just from a parents point of view. If it steps on others toes, sorry, but thats my take.
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RE: Helmet laws.
There's the whole point. It shouldn't be a law to begin with. One adult shouldn't be forcing another adult or interfering with the parenting of another's child, to share their viewpoint. That isn't looking out for someone's best interest, that's controlling another individual. the same motivation mass-murderers have!
ORIGINAL: golfblues
Do I object? If it's not law I don't give a damn what anyone does. But I just gave my opinion, case closed. Next!
ORIGINAL: Yellotang
Do you object to adults making their own choice when it comes to seat belts and helmets?
ORIGINAL: golfblues
So I don't get into a argument with my son. It's the law, put it on! I like it when my son & daughter wear seat belts in their car. I've seen too many parents lose their kids in accidents when they never had a chance because they weren't wearing a seat belt. Wear it, it's the law!
Just from a parents point of view. If it steps on others toes, sorry, but thats my take.
ORIGINAL: Yellotang
2 people posted that they think helmet laws should be manditory, yet no response as to why?
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2 people posted that they think helmet laws should be manditory, yet no response as to why?
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Just from a parents point of view. If it steps on others toes, sorry, but thats my take.
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From: NJ
RE: Helmet laws.
Doesn't really matter what anyone thinks or how they rationalize their position. We don't make the laws. But my guess is within 10 years we'll be back to the way it was in the 70s when almost all states had universal helmet laws. After the government lifted it's hold on the states it's down to just 20 states with universal laws.
The excuse given will be that medicaid can no longer fund the cost for catastrophic brain injuries which can reach into the millions of dollars over a person's lifetime. Even when riders have insurance it doesn't begin to cover the cost for the level of care needed. Medicaid steps in when the caps are exceeded and since medicaid is funded by taxpayer dollars steps will be taken to reduce those costs.
Hell they may even pass a law that defines a motorcycle as an inherently unsafe vehicle to be on public roads. Wasn't too long ago that they outlawed theconvertible car. We'll all be in the ****house then.
The excuse given will be that medicaid can no longer fund the cost for catastrophic brain injuries which can reach into the millions of dollars over a person's lifetime. Even when riders have insurance it doesn't begin to cover the cost for the level of care needed. Medicaid steps in when the caps are exceeded and since medicaid is funded by taxpayer dollars steps will be taken to reduce those costs.
Hell they may even pass a law that defines a motorcycle as an inherently unsafe vehicle to be on public roads. Wasn't too long ago that they outlawed theconvertible car. We'll all be in the ****house then.
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From: Ozark Country
RE: Helmet laws.
Too many people think it is necessary for the government to dictate what they should (or shouldn't) do when it comes to their own personal safety and welfare, instead of having the option of using their own judgement to make that decision.
Don't mean to offend anyone, and it's just my own opinion, but people in this country are turning into a bunch of mindless PC sheep that depend on 'big brother' to determine what's best for their safety and welfare.
Some of us prefer to lead our life as we choose, and to make our own decisions..
Don't mean to offend anyone, and it's just my own opinion, but people in this country are turning into a bunch of mindless PC sheep that depend on 'big brother' to determine what's best for their safety and welfare.
Some of us prefer to lead our life as we choose, and to make our own decisions..
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RE: Helmet laws.
But convertibles came back. They weren't necessarily outlawed, you could always buy some form of convertible, but insurance companies came pretty close to outlawing convertibles as well as hot rods. Either by prohibitive costs or refusal to insure. Mustangs and Charger R/T's are back as well as converts. If the means and availability are there, a Challenger Convert for a life-keeper will find it's way into our garage. Consumers will have the final say.
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From: Central FL
RE: Helmet laws.
I voted no helment law. Having done that I always wear a helment when I ride and I really think it is not smart not to do so.... But I don't think that the government should be making laws to protect me from myself. For what its worth I feel the same way about seatbeltlaws.
Jay
Jay
