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Road Captain
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its because yuo yanks r ****e drivers, in the uk & europe a car driver will move over (most of the time) to let a byk pass, esp in trafic, when a byk can make progress. when in france you hardly have to drop below 90mph even on the 2 lane highways they just move to let you through, but most of the time in the states you lot dont have enough lane desiplin for this to work
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a statistical comparison:
In the United States, a motorcyclist is approximately 16 times more likely to die in a crash than an automobile occupant.
In France, the risk of a deadly accident is 21 times higher on a motorcycle than an automobile.
In the United States, a motorcyclist is approximately 16 times more likely to die in a crash than an automobile occupant.
In France, the risk of a deadly accident is 21 times higher on a motorcycle than an automobile.
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From: Windham,Maine
It has nothing to do with you.It is the new trend everywhere,especially when anything is near the road oncoming traffic will force the opposite lane into the ditch so they can get around there fear.What ever happen to common courtesy!!!
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From: W North Carolina
I guess swordy is glad he lives in the UK then....
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From: W North Carolina
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From: " Roll Tide Country "
[quote=5 mile smile;4064850]lane position should be looked at as satisfying 3 goals, in order of importance
1. to see
2. to be seen
3. avoid surface hazards.
to that end, lane position is dynamic depending on the current traffic/road conditions.
however, riding in the left section of the lane to defend the lane from oncoming traffic is completely dangerous.
ride in the left side of the lane to PROTECT the lane from traffic BEHIND you.
think about the risks of defending the lane this way from oncoming traffic-
1. there is no margin for error- you limit your escapes if a situation arises that you must react to.
2. it does not work- if the oncoming driver is too distracted to even stay on their side of the road, not being able to see you, your headlight, etc., chances are they are too distracted to see you/react to you anyway- you defending your lane (by being over to the left 2-3 extra feet) will not wake them up.
3. you don't want to lose the motorcycle vs. car/truck/suv battle
4. as you can see from this graphic, 60% of all motorcycle accidents come from the front left, don't make it worse by minimizing your escape routes/options, thinking you can defend the lane with your body against a car, not taking into account that YOU might make a mistake and go over the yellow line and cause an accident.
[Your serious? right, Your really serious? Wow! your serious . L.ray
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1. to see
2. to be seen
3. avoid surface hazards.
to that end, lane position is dynamic depending on the current traffic/road conditions.
however, riding in the left section of the lane to defend the lane from oncoming traffic is completely dangerous.
ride in the left side of the lane to PROTECT the lane from traffic BEHIND you.
think about the risks of defending the lane this way from oncoming traffic-
1. there is no margin for error- you limit your escapes if a situation arises that you must react to.
2. it does not work- if the oncoming driver is too distracted to even stay on their side of the road, not being able to see you, your headlight, etc., chances are they are too distracted to see you/react to you anyway- you defending your lane (by being over to the left 2-3 extra feet) will not wake them up.
3. you don't want to lose the motorcycle vs. car/truck/suv battle
4. as you can see from this graphic, 60% of all motorcycle accidents come from the front left, don't make it worse by minimizing your escape routes/options, thinking you can defend the lane with your body against a car, not taking into account that YOU might make a mistake and go over the yellow line and cause an accident.
/quote]
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I am completely serious. I lost my best riding buddy in 1992 to a car going over the double yellow.
if you have something to add to the thread, please do, but your sarcasm falls on deaf ears with me.
i've done my research on this matter and have made the choice as to where i ride in regards to oncoming traffic. ride where you want to, but there's no need for your unintelligent post about where i ride.
if you have something to add to the thread, please do, but your sarcasm falls on deaf ears with me.
i've done my research on this matter and have made the choice as to where i ride in regards to oncoming traffic. ride where you want to, but there's no need for your unintelligent post about where i ride.
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lane position should be looked at as satisfying 3 goals, in order of importance
1. to see
2. to be seen
3. avoid surface hazards.
to that end, lane position is dynamic depending on the current traffic/road conditions.
however, riding in the left section of the lane to defend the lane from oncoming traffic is completely dangerous.
ride in the left side of the lane to PROTECT the lane from traffic BEHIND you.
think about the risks of defending the lane this way from oncoming traffic-
1. there is no margin for error- you limit your escapes if a situation arises that you must react to.
2. it does not work- if the oncoming driver is too distracted to even stay on their side of the road, not being able to see you, your headlight, etc., chances are they are too distracted to see you/react to you anyway- you defending your lane (by being over to the left 2-3 extra feet) will not wake them up.
3. you don't want to lose the motorcycle vs. car/truck/suv battle
4. as you can see from this graphic, 60% of all motorcycle accidents come from the front left, don't make it worse by minimizing your escape routes/options, thinking you can defend the lane with your body against a car, not taking into account that YOU might make a mistake and go over the yellow line and cause an accident.
1. to see
2. to be seen
3. avoid surface hazards.
to that end, lane position is dynamic depending on the current traffic/road conditions.
however, riding in the left section of the lane to defend the lane from oncoming traffic is completely dangerous.
ride in the left side of the lane to PROTECT the lane from traffic BEHIND you.
think about the risks of defending the lane this way from oncoming traffic-
1. there is no margin for error- you limit your escapes if a situation arises that you must react to.
2. it does not work- if the oncoming driver is too distracted to even stay on their side of the road, not being able to see you, your headlight, etc., chances are they are too distracted to see you/react to you anyway- you defending your lane (by being over to the left 2-3 extra feet) will not wake them up.
3. you don't want to lose the motorcycle vs. car/truck/suv battle
4. as you can see from this graphic, 60% of all motorcycle accidents come from the front left, don't make it worse by minimizing your escape routes/options, thinking you can defend the lane with your body against a car, not taking into account that YOU might make a mistake and go over the yellow line and cause an accident.
You are skewing the statistics...
60% of all accidents are front left BECAUSE cars turn LEFT in front of oncoming motorcycles!!!
If you combine ALL the red in the chart, I BET that those are MOSTLY the result of people turning LEFT in front of an oncoming bike... the ones in the top RIGHT are the bikes that ALMOST cleared the car...
NEARLY 77% are head on accidents... and I bet the majority of those are from cars turning in front of a bike!