Harley Davidson Sport Bike?
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Tweaked by Porsche, I thought it was designed by Porsche. Apparently I'm not as informed as I though either!! 
ORIGINAL: Cryptoboy
Not quite true. It was actually a Harley VR1000 engine that was tweaked by Porsche engineers.
Now that was a cool looking bike. I haven't seen one in person yet, but on 2 Wheel Tuesday (or Corbin's, something on Speed Channel) they went to a guy that had two of them, and he took them out. Looked and sounded quite nice!
ORIGINAL: rrlavigne
And the Revolution is a German motor design.
And the Revolution is a German motor design.
Now that was a cool looking bike. I haven't seen one in person yet, but on 2 Wheel Tuesday (or Corbin's, something on Speed Channel) they went to a guy that had two of them, and he took them out. Looked and sounded quite nice!
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I thought the vr100 and the engine that was code named nova were combined and tweaked by the germans. I think the nova project was built as a watercooled overhead cam v twin along with the evolution. of course the evo won out.
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The Nova was a water cooled V 4.
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I thought the vr100 and the engine that was code named nova were combined and tweaked by the germans. I think the nova project was built as a watercooled overhead cam v twin along with the evolution. of course the evo won out.
I thought the vr100 and the engine that was code named nova were combined and tweaked by the germans. I think the nova project was built as a watercooled overhead cam v twin along with the evolution. of course the evo won out.
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I thought the V-Rod engine started out as the engine Harley used in the 90's when they attempted to return to AMA Superbike racing.They had a 1000cc liquid cooled vtwin. After several years, lots of failures, and lots of money they abandoned superbike racing and turned the engine over to Porsche to be tweaked into a usable street bike engine.
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ORIGINAL: sfarson
Could happen, but Erik Buell would have been misleading when in a Fuell article he notes having zero interest in the V-Rod engine... reasons included the heavy weight of the Revolution engine and the unsightly water-cooled plumbing.
Could happen, but Erik Buell would have been misleading when in a Fuell article he notes having zero interest in the V-Rod engine... reasons included the heavy weight of the Revolution engine and the unsightly water-cooled plumbing.
Not to disagree, and not to be a name dropper (well anonymously anyway), but I do know a couple folks from the Buell Plant. Last year, one of the guys I see on a regular basis told me that a small group of Buell employees were on their way to Kansas City to look into the feasibility of using the revolution engine in a Buell chassis. Turns out it was unanimous that the weight of the engine was too prohibitive and they scrapped the idea. Perhaps that is why Eric said what he said if his quote was after this trip, but there was at least some initial interest in the motor.
I know this much, I was at Road America last week for the bike races, and yeah, the Buell's may 'own the corners' but they can't touch the Japanese bikes anywhere else on the track. They're getting close, and they've gotten more power out of their motors than anyone could have predicted, but it wouldn't surprise me if they were starting to look into other motors or motor designs.
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ORIGINAL: rrlavigne
Well not to beat a dead horse because this little fact doesn't matter but keep in mind this is a global economy. Harley's an American BASED company but a good percentage of the parts are made in Asia ... like the suspension. And the Revolution is a German motor design. There's no such thing as a 100% American motorcycle anymore, except maybe one of those hand made choppers. I'd LOVE to see Harley be a 100% American bike again but as long as quality parts can be made cheaper in other countries it'll never happen.
Buy a Harley because you LOVE Harley's ... I do too! But not because of the flag, Unfortunately WE'RE more patriotic and loyal than our big corporations.
Well not to beat a dead horse because this little fact doesn't matter but keep in mind this is a global economy. Harley's an American BASED company but a good percentage of the parts are made in Asia ... like the suspension. And the Revolution is a German motor design. There's no such thing as a 100% American motorcycle anymore, except maybe one of those hand made choppers. I'd LOVE to see Harley be a 100% American bike again but as long as quality parts can be made cheaper in other countries it'll never happen.
Buy a Harley because you LOVE Harley's ... I do too! But not because of the flag, Unfortunately WE'RE more patriotic and loyal than our big corporations.
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I would buy it too. I just cant bring myself to buy anything not american, thats number one the second is not sure i want to spend the money on a buell when i think harley will bring out a revolution sport bike.
I would buy it too. I just cant bring myself to buy anything not american, thats number one the second is not sure i want to spend the money on a buell when i think harley will bring out a revolution sport bike.
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I think Buell is REALLY stuck on an american power plant. NOT an HD engine. I would not be surprised if Buell went looking for someone to manufacture or has started the process.
The only thing Buell wants to do is go superbike racing....
The only thing Buell wants to do is go superbike racing....
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RE: Harley Davidson Sport Bike?
Yeah that is right, he started the company to build formula 750 race bikes, then the rules changed to superbikes. Erik is a racer at heart, he also preaches his trilogy of tech alot and if it dosen't fit the trilogy then he won't do it.
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The Buell is really more of a streetfighter. It's domain is curvy, twisty roads that can be done better than most sport bikes can dream. It's in it's own little world, but it definitely has a niche market all it's own. I have an xb12S. They are pretty much a rush to ride.
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