Wow, the economy must be bad...
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I can't complain about the unions, they put a decent wage in my pockets for many years, and while they aren't what they used to be, if a guy was offered two jobs, one union and one non-union, which one do you think they would take?????????????? And the unions are now failing in Illinois, but they put a lot more money in the average working-class man's pockets for the last 20 years, so all in all I'm not going to complain about them.
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"polititians are scrambling to fix that" Good luck with that!
I have enjoyed about as much fixin by politicians as I can stand!
Tax breaks for taking production oversea's, unlimited H1B Visa's taking all the high paying, high tech jobs.
Is it the unions fighting for a living wage or the corporations falling over themselves to get to Communist China for all that cheap labor and then get a tax incentive for taking your job oversea's?
The millions of jobs we just lost ain't comin back, thanks to the best damn government money can buy! Maybe if the working class ever gets a lobby to compete with the corporate lobby!
I have enjoyed about as much fixin by politicians as I can stand!
Tax breaks for taking production oversea's, unlimited H1B Visa's taking all the high paying, high tech jobs.
Is it the unions fighting for a living wage or the corporations falling over themselves to get to Communist China for all that cheap labor and then get a tax incentive for taking your job oversea's?
The millions of jobs we just lost ain't comin back, thanks to the best damn government money can buy! Maybe if the working class ever gets a lobby to compete with the corporate lobby!
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I go to this bike show and swap meet almost every year http://www.mccormickplace.com/eventi...p?event_ID=655, and it's always been a 3 day event. But this year they're down to 1 day. I'm guessing it's not worth it to the vendors to be there 3 days this time around. It's too bad, because I've bought almost all of my leathers, parts, and clothes there for quite some time. Kind of sucks.
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Not tryin to be a smart *** but, You just noticed the bad economy? I am seeing doors close everyday around here. My wife has been out of work for 8 months now and she has great skills. I don't know how it is where you are but it's not good here.
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No.
First of all, you have to understand that in Chicago Union and Politician are pretty much the same thing - in regard to being part of a group of people who believes Chicago exists to serve their needs and provide an opportunity for them to rape, pillage and plunder the masses. There is no way to immediately identify whether the man with the gun to your head and his hand out is a politician, a union worker or a street thug. ... well, at least the street thug is honest about who he is. The other two smile in your face and try to pretend they are something else.
Chicago isn't losing shows to other countries. They are going to other US cities where there is at least a little separation between their politicians, unions and criminals.
At McCormick Place, if you want to plug in an extension cord, you can't just plug it in yourself, you need a crew of 3 union electricians @ a minimum charge of 1 hour labor.
I guess the unions are making some concessions to try to help. In the above example, I think the new rule is that two of the union electricians have to drink coffee while the third one is plugging in the extension cord. That way, the 10 minute coffee break is taken out of their one hour labor charge.
Chicago is truly the city that works... as long as you bribe the right people.
First of all, you have to understand that in Chicago Union and Politician are pretty much the same thing - in regard to being part of a group of people who believes Chicago exists to serve their needs and provide an opportunity for them to rape, pillage and plunder the masses. There is no way to immediately identify whether the man with the gun to your head and his hand out is a politician, a union worker or a street thug. ... well, at least the street thug is honest about who he is. The other two smile in your face and try to pretend they are something else.
Chicago isn't losing shows to other countries. They are going to other US cities where there is at least a little separation between their politicians, unions and criminals.
At McCormick Place, if you want to plug in an extension cord, you can't just plug it in yourself, you need a crew of 3 union electricians @ a minimum charge of 1 hour labor.
I guess the unions are making some concessions to try to help. In the above example, I think the new rule is that two of the union electricians have to drink coffee while the third one is plugging in the extension cord. That way, the 10 minute coffee break is taken out of their one hour labor charge.
Chicago is truly the city that works... as long as you bribe the right people.
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What amazes me about the Joe Average union employee - those who are low enough on the totem pole as to not get a cut of the bribe money and other benefits of criminal activities, pay money out of *their* checks to the union leaders and organizers - the guys driving the $120,000 Mercedes... and somehow still think they are doing OK with the deal.
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No.
First of all, you have to understand that in Chicago Union and Politician are pretty much the same thing - in regard to being part of a group of people who believes Chicago exists to serve their needs and provide an opportunity for them to rape, pillage and plunder the masses. There is no way to immediately identify weather the man with the gun to your head and his hand out is a politician, a union worker or a street thug. ... well, at least the street thug is honest about who he is. The other two smile in your face and try to pretend they are something else.
Chicago isn't losing shows to other countries. They are going to other US cities where there is at least a little separation between their politicians, unions and criminals.
At McCormick Place, if you want to plug in an extension cord, you can't just plug it in yourself, you need a crew of 3 union electricians @ a minimum charge of 1 hour labor.
I guess the unions are making some concessions to try to help. In the above example, I think the new rule is that two of the union electricians have to drink coffee while the third one is plugging in the extension cord. That way, the 10 minute coffee break is taken out of their one hour labor charge.
Chicago is truly the city that works... as long as you bribe the right people.
First of all, you have to understand that in Chicago Union and Politician are pretty much the same thing - in regard to being part of a group of people who believes Chicago exists to serve their needs and provide an opportunity for them to rape, pillage and plunder the masses. There is no way to immediately identify weather the man with the gun to your head and his hand out is a politician, a union worker or a street thug. ... well, at least the street thug is honest about who he is. The other two smile in your face and try to pretend they are something else.
Chicago isn't losing shows to other countries. They are going to other US cities where there is at least a little separation between their politicians, unions and criminals.
At McCormick Place, if you want to plug in an extension cord, you can't just plug it in yourself, you need a crew of 3 union electricians @ a minimum charge of 1 hour labor.
I guess the unions are making some concessions to try to help. In the above example, I think the new rule is that two of the union electricians have to drink coffee while the third one is plugging in the extension cord. That way, the 10 minute coffee break is taken out of their one hour labor charge.
Chicago is truly the city that works... as long as you bribe the right people.
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That's always been the Chicago way though - the average Joe willingly supports the criminals (unions, politicians) and turns his head when needed, as long as it benefits him without getting his own hands dirty.
When the working people in Chicago start complaining about the criminals, it's not because they care so much about them being criminals, it's because the criminals at that point are not benefiting them.
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I get your point but since you live in a "right to work State", and I never have, I can't claim to have a legitimate argument. All I can say is when I was a kid and they said you can either start at 9.00 an hour or 14.00 an hour, you can guess which way I went. Hold on, I didn't realize you were in Joliet. For some reason I thought you were chiming in from N.C. or something like that, so please just ignore this whole post!