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I am interested in finding out the truth about CATs in 2010 models. I find different answers on different sites / posts and can't rightly tell who is telling the truth or just BSing. Here is what I think I know:
2010 Models
Touring - All have CATs and are separate from the mufflers.
All others - All have a CAT in one muffler (I don't know why only 1 but that is what I have read)
Now for some follow on questions:
1) Do the HD Screaming Eagle mufflers have CATs? if not why the f do stock bikes have them?
2) If you live in a state that does not require emissions testing (Missouri) does it even matter if you replace your pipes without the CAT? Somewhere I was reading that (legally) you cannot remove a CAT if it was stock on a vehicle, even if it is not needed.
I am interested in finding out the truth about CATs in 2010 models. I find different answers on different sites / posts and can't rightly tell who is telling the truth or just BSing. Here is what I think I know:
2010 Models
Touring - All have CATs and are separate from the mufflers.
All others - All have a CAT in one muffler (I don't know why only 1 but that is what I have read)
Now for some follow on questions:
1) Do the HD Screaming Eagle mufflers have CATs? if not why the f do stock bikes have them? 2) If you live in a state that does not require emissions testing (Missouri) does it even matter if you replace your pipes without the CAT? Somewhere I was reading that (legally) you cannot remove a CAT if it was stock on a vehicle, even if it is not needed.
Thanks.
up here you cannot remove any federaly mandated equipment "legally" that being said it depends on your locality and your personality. i have never driven a vehicle equiped with emission control crap on it as that gets gutted or outright removed the first day i have it.
now i am sure that the aftermarket for motorcycle exhuast will go the route of cages and you will soon see "high flow" cats or something similer in a few years.
i would recomend keeping our cat handy if you remove it that way if you get a fix it ticket or require it for inspections its there.
just remember that if you have a exremely high heat source theres about $100-300 worth of precious metals in the cat that can be salvaged and used to purchase upgrades hahaha
I cant answer your question with 100% accuracy, but if your state is not subject to emissions, then you should be able to remove the cat. Best way to tell would be go to the dealer and read the sticker on the frame. If I remember CA bikes say something to the legal effects of removing emission equipment. As fas as 2010 models having cats? I do know for sure that touring bikes have them in the header, and the other models do not have cats in the header, but not sure about the one muffler thing. Doesn't make sense to me.
Once I get my 2010, the CAT is coming off no matter what, I just want to know how "at risk" I am.
Do you worry about pulling off mattress tags also? Have you ever been busted for pulling a mattress tag! For now you are at very little risk! The trend will be to go after aftermarket manufacturers not indivuals. In the early cats on the automobile you could get an after market "test Pipe" that nobody ever replaced. You could also dump a cat without setting a trouble code, now they light up like a christmas tree when you touch that cat.
The EPA has better more efficient ways of stopping cat killin after a few years. Motorcycle industry just has not caught up yet!
Kill em while you can, 2010 on they all got cats and they ain't gonna let you kill them all!
I know one thing for certain, my bike (a non-California 2010 Super Glide) HAD a catalytic converter in each muffler. Looked like this, from the inlet end.
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