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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 04:02 AM
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The power source doees not matter as long as it is 12 volts ......But you should never connect to the ground on the battery when jumping, Ground to the frame or the starter it self. Why this can(...not will, but it can) Fry electrical componets such as the ECM I do not know, but I have seen it done to everything from cars to heavy equiment and Diesel trucks. Its the same reason you unplug batterys when you weld on a frame or body.

But start with the fuses. I use the K.I.S.S method Keep It Simple Stupid
 
Old Sep 26, 2010 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by mech-a-nic
you should never connect to the ground on the battery when jumping, Ground to the frame or the starter it self. Why this can(...not will, but it can) Fry electrical componets such as the ECM I do not know,
Connecting directly to the negative terminal of a battery will NOT fry components. Electrically, the negative terminal of the battery is exactly the same as the frame...it's at ground potential. The reason you don't make the connection directly to the battery is that the final connection, which will be ground if you follow the directions, is prone to sparking. You don't want sparks near the hydrogen gas that's given off by lead acid batteries.
 
Old Sep 26, 2010 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mech-a-nic
The power source doees not matter as long as it is 12 volts ......But you should never connect to the ground on the battery when jumping, Ground to the frame or the starter it self. Why this can(...not will, but it can) Fry electrical componets such as the ECM I do not know, but I have seen it done to everything from cars to heavy equiment and Diesel trucks. Its the same reason you unplug batterys when you weld on a frame or body.

But start with the fuses. I use the K.I.S.S method Keep It Simple Stupid
They don't like power spikes. Just like any other computer type component.

Soooooooooo.....After all that what is the final prognosis for the OP's bike???
 
Old Sep 27, 2010 | 08:49 PM
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I blew the main fuse and probably shorted out the battery . Yes the car was running , I should have let it charge for 5 mins but once I got the cables on I tried to start it. Anyway new battery and fuse and it started .
 
Old Dec 17, 2010 | 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Fogoms
Connecting directly to the negative terminal of a battery will NOT fry components. Electrically, the negative terminal of the battery is exactly the same as the frame...it's at ground potential. The reason you don't make the connection directly to the battery is that the final connection, which will be ground if you follow the directions, is prone to sparking. You don't want sparks near the hydrogen gas that's given off by lead acid batteries.
I agree with this 100%, The Hydrogen gas vs possible spark at the battery is the reason grounding to frame is recomended but certainly it is not a must.I have seen MANY Harleys jump started by Automobiles including Newer model bikes 2008-2009 etc with Zero problems.I truly wonder where half of the crazy stuff comes from on these forums at times.There are still people who think storing your battery on concrete will make the battery go dead ?That was true 40+ years ago when the battery cases were rubber based and the acid would leetch out etc causing a path for current to flow etc.Unless your modern battery has an actual leak from a cracked case laying it on concrete will not hurt it in anyway.
 
Old Dec 17, 2010 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Dustball
Don't you love some of the lore that gets circulated in our community!
Not "lore", but stoopid, ignorant bullsh!t. People pulling **** out of their azzes and haven't a clue why they're saying what they are.
 
Old Dec 17, 2010 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by tar_snake
Not "lore", but stoopid, ignorant bullsh!t. People pulling **** out of their azzes and haven't a clue why they're saying what they are.
Many times it's because they've read it in an owners manual, which is another name for "anti-lawsuit document". Or an old thread that's been dredged up from several months back. :-)
 
Old Dec 17, 2010 | 10:07 AM
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It's been said several times - 12 volts is 12 volts. No reason to worry about jumping the battery. Can't hurt anything by properly jumping. However - on the vehicle with the dead battery, you definately want to avoid any sparks near the battery! The dead battery may be emitting some fumes and those fumes can be explosive. I always make the last connection in the process, the negative connection on the vehicle with the good battery. I make that connection to the frame or starter (as far from the battery as possible) to avoid any sparks near the battery. I have seen car batteries blow up while jumping when the final connection was made to the negative terminal of the dead battery. The spark can ignite the fumes from the dead battery, and jump right into the battery's vent hole. Makes a big mess to clean up and you better have some baking soda handy.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2010 | 11:09 AM
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What year is your bike? If it is a newer bike you are NEVER supposed to jump start them. If you do, you will fry your electronic ignition box.
I have a '08 Dyna- left the key turned on and drained the battery. Found a new friend with a Dodge pickup that knew what he was doing. It took us 45 minutes of waiting for that 12V car battery to charge the bikes enough to kick it over. Charging can be done, just don't start the donor.
 
Old Dec 17, 2010 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BBStacker
I heard that if you jump start your bike via a Prius you lose all sound coming from your motor and exhaust under 25 mph.

Come on guys 12v is 12v is 12v.
The big concern would be to use DC....not AC
 



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