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From: NE Philly
1) I'm a Caucasian American
2) My ex wife is Japanese
3) My daughters are half Japanese
4) My screen name is a Japanese word
4) I have no racial biases
Based on the fact that David Jackets sells counterfeit merchandise, I doubt their honesty when they claim to manufacturer the jackets for the MoCo. Their entire site is counterfeit merchandise. That, in itself, shows they aren't exactly legitimate. It's ludicrous to think that of all the products they sell that the only brand they sell that's authentic is HD jackets. Seriously? Does that even make common sense?
Just because it's of similar quality doesn't mean it's authentic either. Although I've read in this thread of sizing and detail error they've made. Yet, there are those here that toss common sense out the window and state with certainty the stuff is authentic. How ridiculous.
It doesn't take a statistics and probability class to figure it out.
2) My ex wife is Japanese
3) My daughters are half Japanese
4) My screen name is a Japanese word
4) I have no racial biases
Based on the fact that David Jackets sells counterfeit merchandise, I doubt their honesty when they claim to manufacturer the jackets for the MoCo. Their entire site is counterfeit merchandise. That, in itself, shows they aren't exactly legitimate. It's ludicrous to think that of all the products they sell that the only brand they sell that's authentic is HD jackets. Seriously? Does that even make common sense?
Just because it's of similar quality doesn't mean it's authentic either. Although I've read in this thread of sizing and detail error they've made. Yet, there are those here that toss common sense out the window and state with certainty the stuff is authentic. How ridiculous.
It doesn't take a statistics and probability class to figure it out.
Tourer
Joined: Oct 2011
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From: Midwest
1) I'm a Caucasian American
2) My ex wife is Japanese
3) My daughters are half Japanese
4) My screen name is a Japanese word
4) I have no racial biases
Based on the fact that David Jackets sells counterfeit merchandise, I doubt their honesty when they claim to manufacturer the jackets for the MoCo. Their entire site is counterfeit merchandise. That, in itself, shows they aren't exactly legitimate. It's ludicrous to think that of all the products they sell that the only brand they sell that's authentic is HD jackets. Seriously? Does that even make common sense?
Just because it's of similar quality doesn't mean it's authentic either. Although I've read in this thread of sizing and detail error they've made. Yet, there are those here that toss common sense out the window and state with certainty the stuff is authentic. How ridiculous.
It doesn't take a statistics and probability class to figure it out.
2) My ex wife is Japanese
3) My daughters are half Japanese
4) My screen name is a Japanese word
4) I have no racial biases
Based on the fact that David Jackets sells counterfeit merchandise, I doubt their honesty when they claim to manufacturer the jackets for the MoCo. Their entire site is counterfeit merchandise. That, in itself, shows they aren't exactly legitimate. It's ludicrous to think that of all the products they sell that the only brand they sell that's authentic is HD jackets. Seriously? Does that even make common sense?
Just because it's of similar quality doesn't mean it's authentic either. Although I've read in this thread of sizing and detail error they've made. Yet, there are those here that toss common sense out the window and state with certainty the stuff is authentic. How ridiculous.
It doesn't take a statistics and probability class to figure it out.
I think we all agree that the site is illegitimate in that it is not official, however, the prices of their Harley jackets are way more proportional than the rest of their items, which we agree are all counterfeit. This suggests, to me at least, they are the same jackets that are sold in the dealers. The fact that a few have mistakes or are of the inconsistent sizing to me only suggests that they were rejects from those that were shipped to the US for the HD dealers.
I wouldn't make this an issue of common sense. Intelligent people are allowed to disagree.
Tourer
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From: Houston Tx
Excellent thread 
I have a Chinese jacket with the only slight difference being that I actually picked it up in Shenzhen, China, where they are made.
My thread on the experience is here https://www.hdforums.com/forum/off-t...enanigans.html if you want to read it.
Being a regular visitor to China on business, I can assure you that you can buy anything out the back door if you can find the right man.
Sure, there's plenty of fakes. We all know that Rolex is made in Switzerland, Ugg boots are Australian and Gucci bags come from Italy.
It stands to reason that if you buy one of those from China, it's definitely counterfeit.
But, real MOCO jackets, iPhones and many other products are made there. Of course, there's counterfeit versions too but if you can find the right guy, you can get the genuine article cheap.
Judging by a post some way back, somebody bought something that was a 2nd and rejected on quality but as far as my jacket goes, it is perfect.
When it was new, I went to the local dealer and I honestly could have swapped it out for one on the rail. It's the same jacket but it cost me $500 less than I would have paid in the UK.
That $500 is a lot of mark up for shipping to the UK and something I'm not prepared to pay.
I have a Chinese jacket with the only slight difference being that I actually picked it up in Shenzhen, China, where they are made.
My thread on the experience is here https://www.hdforums.com/forum/off-t...enanigans.html if you want to read it.
Being a regular visitor to China on business, I can assure you that you can buy anything out the back door if you can find the right man.
Sure, there's plenty of fakes. We all know that Rolex is made in Switzerland, Ugg boots are Australian and Gucci bags come from Italy.
It stands to reason that if you buy one of those from China, it's definitely counterfeit.
But, real MOCO jackets, iPhones and many other products are made there. Of course, there's counterfeit versions too but if you can find the right guy, you can get the genuine article cheap.
Judging by a post some way back, somebody bought something that was a 2nd and rejected on quality but as far as my jacket goes, it is perfect.
When it was new, I went to the local dealer and I honestly could have swapped it out for one on the rail. It's the same jacket but it cost me $500 less than I would have paid in the UK.
That $500 is a lot of mark up for shipping to the UK and something I'm not prepared to pay.
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From: Adelaide, Australia
Man this is getting intense. Being Aussie I can't really weigh in on the situation too much. Like I said before, for me and I imagine for the UK guy, being outside the US makes the markup even more dramatic.
I did go into the dealer today to check the brown roadway jacket. I can say that the one I received has either a) been made with the wrong leather or b) had the stressing/dying process missed. Everything else is exactly the same. So take that however you will.
Would I do it again or recommend, yeah probably. Seeing as the jacket is too big (which was my fault) I may just buy that one from a dealer to ensure its the right colour this time. Then again for the mistake davidjackets offered me a discount to reorder it, when he gets my size in soon. Tough call.
I did go into the dealer today to check the brown roadway jacket. I can say that the one I received has either a) been made with the wrong leather or b) had the stressing/dying process missed. Everything else is exactly the same. So take that however you will.
Would I do it again or recommend, yeah probably. Seeing as the jacket is too big (which was my fault) I may just buy that one from a dealer to ensure its the right colour this time. Then again for the mistake davidjackets offered me a discount to reorder it, when he gets my size in soon. Tough call.
Road Captain
Joined: Oct 2007
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From: Georgia
Guild, I have wouldn't get too excited about a discount from them. I was offered the same thing but they wouldn't tell me how much I would be getting off.
When I placed my initial order I had asked for a discount since I was spending $500 with them and all they would give me was 3 percent.
When I placed my initial order I had asked for a discount since I was spending $500 with them and all they would give me was 3 percent.
Tourer
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From: Bay Area, CA
The Rolex, Omega, Patek, Tag, IWC, AP watches are fake. The LV, Polo, Gucci handbags are fake. The Armani suits are fake. The UGG boots are fake.
So, what you are saying is that although everything else they sell on that site is counterfeit, only the Harley stuff is authentic?
There's a sucker born every minute.
So, what you are saying is that although everything else they sell on that site is counterfeit, only the Harley stuff is authentic?
There's a sucker born every minute.
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Road Master
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From: pittsburgh, pa
All I can tell you, is I took my jacket to the dealer and took the time to really compare, and they were IDENTICAL.
The factory I bought it from THROUGH davidjacket TOLD me they make them for the factory.
So, you just have to decide...what is genuine Harley and what is not??
Does anyone think Harley Davidson makes this stuff....or that they PAY another sub-contractor to do it?
Anyone with a brain, KNOWS what I'm saying.
Go ahead and fight it...you will lose, and in fact have ALREADY LOST. The majority of the **** for sale at the dealer is made in Asia.
bitchin about how it ain't right, and it shoudl be yadda yadda yadda....it is what it is.
Don't buy the jacket, or go ahead and pay 300$ markup at the dealer for the same damn jacket. Those with fk'n BRAINS will go to the same place I did (www.davidjacket.com)and buy them for a fraction. I will pick up my other 2 at USPS tomorrow morning!
...and the greedy union bastards won't get one red cent from it. Commie pukes.
~Joe
The factory I bought it from THROUGH davidjacket TOLD me they make them for the factory.
So, you just have to decide...what is genuine Harley and what is not??
Does anyone think Harley Davidson makes this stuff....or that they PAY another sub-contractor to do it?
Anyone with a brain, KNOWS what I'm saying.
Go ahead and fight it...you will lose, and in fact have ALREADY LOST. The majority of the **** for sale at the dealer is made in Asia.
bitchin about how it ain't right, and it shoudl be yadda yadda yadda....it is what it is.
Don't buy the jacket, or go ahead and pay 300$ markup at the dealer for the same damn jacket. Those with fk'n BRAINS will go to the same place I did (www.davidjacket.com)and buy them for a fraction. I will pick up my other 2 at USPS tomorrow morning!
...and the greedy union bastards won't get one red cent from it. Commie pukes.
~Joe
Otherwise I'd say Uncle Ho at davidjackets.com is getting his yuan's worth.
Road Master
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From: pittsburgh, pa
Why else all the made in america bullshit? All the Asian bashing? Even when it can be proven that the quality is vastly better outside of the USA, and the price is much better.
It IS rooted in racism. It wasn't that many years ago alot of men in the south wouldn't buy a Plymouth, because they hired alot of blacks to work in their factories.....FACT....go read up on it.
All of my stuff was made by my fellow man.....not a friggin alien....and every single man that built my **** was trying to feed his family as well.
American workers are spoiled and lazy. I was one of them for 7 years (union electrician, IBEW card carrying Journeyman, trained through their 5 year apprenticeship)...but I got away from it, and have first hand knowledge. I was trianed in the art of not doing ****, dragging the job out and getting paid for overtime to get it done on time, etc.
~Joe
It IS rooted in racism. It wasn't that many years ago alot of men in the south wouldn't buy a Plymouth, because they hired alot of blacks to work in their factories.....FACT....go read up on it.
All of my stuff was made by my fellow man.....not a friggin alien....and every single man that built my **** was trying to feed his family as well.
American workers are spoiled and lazy. I was one of them for 7 years (union electrician, IBEW card carrying Journeyman, trained through their 5 year apprenticeship)...but I got away from it, and have first hand knowledge. I was trianed in the art of not doing ****, dragging the job out and getting paid for overtime to get it done on time, etc.
~Joe
Your posts are entertaining when you're schilling for Uncle Ho, whoring yourself out for your Chinese overlords, but this post is over the top.
Now you're playing the "Racism" card-the last resort of a weak minded individual losing a debate.
Pathetic.