Belief confirmed
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Took this course a cpl years back. www.Streetmasters.com
Their approach is
1. All braking and downshifting prior to the turn
2. As far to the outside as possible without crossing the line
3. Look as far ahead through the turn as you can see
4. Start accelerating through the turn
5. You're apex can change depending the curve itself so you have to adjust
6. When you can see the exit the to the turn start heading to the inside
Adjust your suspension up to add more clearance. The board scraping is only your bike telling you reached your limit.
Works great on my ECG. Then again how of those riders paid no attention to tire? Not everyone checks before they set out.
Their approach is
1. All braking and downshifting prior to the turn
2. As far to the outside as possible without crossing the line
3. Look as far ahead through the turn as you can see
4. Start accelerating through the turn
5. You're apex can change depending the curve itself so you have to adjust
6. When you can see the exit the to the turn start heading to the inside
Adjust your suspension up to add more clearance. The board scraping is only your bike telling you reached your limit.
Works great on my ECG. Then again how of those riders paid no attention to tire? Not everyone checks before they set out.
Road Warrior
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The most important thing is to drive within your limits. Corning on a dirt bike is nothing like a street bike. I don't know why people try to compare them. Dirt bikes slide through corners, Street bikes don't. The top two cause of motorcycle accidents is alchohol and speeding not cornering. HD's are not or have they every been designed for road racing on asphalt. Can you ride them through corners yes but you won't blaze turns like a crotch rocket can. If you don't know the road.. Slow down.
Road Warrior
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From: Knoxville, TN
I took and Advanced Sportbike Rider's course on my Street Bob last year. The instructors had us lean forward on the bike in addition to the techniques listed above. The logic is that you unload your rear suspension by shifting your weight to the front suspension. This allows you to lean further before stuff starts scraping.
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Actually this statement is only partially true. Here are the statistics:
http://www.motorcycle-accidents.com/pages/stats.html
Everyone should read this!
And here is proof of something I've said forever (check my old posts and see)
"Motorcycle riders with dirt bike experience are significantly under represented in the accident data."
That is stat speak for those that learned on dirt and end up in a wreck are a statistically very, very small number. So small it is statistically insignificant.
If you want to learn to ride, spend a few years on dirt!!!!!
Last edited by Jonesee; Sep 15, 2011 at 05:56 PM.
Big Kahuna HDF Member
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From: texas panhandle
If one looks at street and highway stats of motorcyclist killed, it appears that often it is collisions with larger vehicles. Even the thread about the motorcyclist killed by running over a tire tread could be attributed to other vehicles. Dirt bikes don't compete with cars.
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Please read the stat quotes. It is motorcycle riders with "dirt experience", not accidents in the dirt.
I don't know how the NTHSA could track dirt accidents (lord knows you have enough of them). The only stat I saw specific to dirt bikes was a death stat and it was extremely low too.
I don't know how the NTHSA could track dirt accidents (lord knows you have enough of them). The only stat I saw specific to dirt bikes was a death stat and it was extremely low too.
Last edited by Jonesee; Sep 15, 2011 at 08:27 PM.
Road Captain
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From: South of The ATL.
Interesting thread.
I googled the Goldwing on the Tail of the Dragon as mentioned earlier - WOW...
I googled the Goldwing on the Tail of the Dragon as mentioned earlier - WOW...
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Practice up on knowing what your bike feels and sounds like when you get low. I've seen people freak when they get into it hard and then comes the sound of metal against asphalt. The reaction to to "pull-up" and stop the sparks. I intentionally drag both sides of my Street Bob so that the sound is as sweet as the exhaust rumble. The scratches are all low, mostly out of sight and whoever does see them will likely compliment you. GET USED TO THE SOUND !