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Old Sep 17, 2011 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Stiggy
And the sad thing is, it's not the design of the retread. Separation is caused primarily by running the tire under-inflated. It's the driver's responsibilty during his pre-trip inspection. Therefor the trucking companies should be held liable for these accidents.
in 20+ years of driving a truck I had MAYBE 10-12 flats. 3 or 4 blow outs on trailers, but NONE of them where retreads.
If you figure out the miles traveled vs flats, I bet its much better ratio than for car drivers.
"outlaw" cheap and fairly safe alternative, force companies or drivers to pay the damadges or higher insurance and the next thing you'll be bitching about is higher cost of transportation.
Higher cost of transporting goods will only increase cost at the cash register.
careful what you ask for ...
 
Old Sep 17, 2011 | 10:33 AM
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You know those 2 feet to 6 feet retreads that come off the tires of 18 wheelers, and lay like land mines on our highways. Bad enough to hit one in a car or pickup. I've hit two and one bent the bumper on the Ford Explorer I was driving. Trying to dodge one in heavy rush hour traffic, still moving at 55+ on a 6 lane expressway is even more dangerous. One of these retreads were responsible for killing a motorcyclist on I-85 in Gwinnett County Georgia last week. He didn't see it until the car in front of him hit it and caused it to be thrown up in the air. The retread hit him and caused him to fall. He might have survived, since witnesses said he laid his bike down. Then an 18 wheeler ran over him before he could get up. Killed instantly. These retreads have caused many accidents, either directly like with this fellow biker or with vehicles swerving into another car trying to miss one. THEY NEED TO BE OUTLAWED. PERIOD. The cost savings aren't worth a life. And these are killing people. If a truck can be identified that has one fly off and someone hits it, the trucking company should have their butt sued.
how close was he behind the car that he didn't see it?
how close was truck behind him that couldn't avoid hitting him?

replace the retread with any other large piece of debris and you will have the same results.

so was it the retread that killed him or human error, high speeds and following too close? think about it before getting on your soap box.
 
Old Sep 17, 2011 | 01:05 PM
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Extensive studies have been done by independent companies. Surveying many samples in various states, the failure rate was 60% new tires and 40 % recaps.


Most were due to under inflation / heat. Very few were determined to be defective process in the recapping processes.


Try Google before you decide to shutdown a large US industry employing thousands of hard working folks that make a good quality product.


Have a good day….
 
Old Sep 17, 2011 | 01:26 PM
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I live in Memphis, Tn area. Some of our roads are not in the best of shape. I was in heavy traffic the other day and a highway alligator come whipping out from under the car in front of me. Damn thing was mad as hell.

Cages were all around me. No where to go. I had to think fast the dang thing was coming right at me. And to make matters worse there were snakes on the road.

I was determined not to let that thing take a bite out of me or my ride. I had to think fast. It had gained it’s footing and was charging out for blood. I didn’t have a lot of time to decide what to do.

Years of riding made my decision for me. I kicked my trusty steed down a gear and accelerated towards the beast. I wanted to close the gap and not give it time to plan it’s move. Damn now there were road snakes to contend with. If I hit one at the wrong time it could be a mess. And me with out a Gremlin Bell.

At what had to be the very last second I threw the Heritage to the left of the nasty animal. Damn it changed direction. I thought that’s it. It’s last chance tried to take a bight out my leg. His thrust was off and he only struck the floorboard and knocked my foot from it.

We were clear. No more road snakes either. Pushing the floorboard down I looked at the wall of cages around me and chaulked another one up to the road Angels.
 
Old Sep 17, 2011 | 02:13 PM
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Wow 3 threads running all at the same time on this very subject , copy cat or just didn't bother looking for another first ?
 
Old Sep 17, 2011 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by LarryV
You know those 2 feet to 6 feet retreads that come off the tires of 18 wheelers, and lay like land mines on our highways. Bad enough to hit one in a car or pickup. I've hit two and one bent the bumper on the Ford Explorer I was driving. Trying to dodge one in heavy rush hour traffic, still moving at 55+ on a 6 lane expressway is even more dangerous. One of these retreads were responsible for killing a motorcyclist on I-85 in Gwinnett County Georgia last week. He didn't see it until the car in front of him hit it and caused it to be thrown up in the air. The retread hit him and caused him to fall. He might have survived, since witnesses said he laid his bike down. Then an 18 wheeler ran over him before he could get up. Killed instantly. These retreads have caused many accidents, either directly like with this fellow biker or with vehicles swerving into another car trying to miss one. THEY NEED TO BE OUTLAWED. PERIOD. The cost savings aren't worth a life. And these are killing people. If a truck can be identified that has one fly off and someone hits it, the trucking company should have their butt sued.
Bro I've hit a full sized muffler with a chunk of tailpipe , a cinder block , a couch cushion , a german shepard , a few " gators " of different sizes including one that took the windshield off the bike at 65 and an assortment of crap the size of footballs during my riding career and haven't gone down with any . Was a hell of a ride with a few of them but didn't eat it .

Said it before and I'll shout it again people need to learn much better riding skills before they leather up and play biker and lot would have lived longer if they had . The road on two wheels is an unforgiving bitch and doesn't suffer fools lightly .

People need to tend their own yard like learning to ride before shouting for more safety changes to make up for everyone elses being in over their heads on that new bike . We have enough " nannies " pushing through limp wrist laws as it is .
 
Old Sep 17, 2011 | 02:37 PM
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bro i've hit a full sized muffler with a chunk of tailpipe , a cinder block , a couch cushion , a german shepard , a few " gators " of different sizes including one that took the windshield off the bike at 65 and an assortment of crap the size of footballs during my riding career and haven't gone down with any . Was a hell of a ride with a few of them but didn't eat it .

Said it before and i'll shout it again people need to learn much better riding skills before they leather up and play biker and lot would have lived longer if they had . The road on two wheels is an unforgiving bitch and doesn't suffer fools lightly .

People need to tend their own yard like learning to ride before shouting for more safety changes to make up for everyone elses being in over their heads on that new bike . We have enough " nannies " pushing through limp wrist laws as it is .
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Old Sep 17, 2011 | 03:15 PM
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Another Amen!
 
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Old Sep 17, 2011 | 03:48 PM
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Problem is that when tires do go flat truckers keep going. The tread seperates over next few miles. No reason truckers can't be forced to stop asap. They'd reduce the number of tread hazards and maybe be clse enough to move them off the road. After that the locals should patrol to pick them up. No reason they should be in the road for days or weeks.
 



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