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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ackman1968
The difference from 07 to 08.....isn't 08 the first year for the tear drop air cleaner? I thought the backing plate for the tear drop SE cleaner was different but it's my understanding you can interchange them.



When you work in a parts department that probably sells more bolt on accessories than replacement parts you should get a pretty good feel for what will and what will not interchange. A good parts person will have the knowledge the rest should be flipping burgers.
Didnt I say that they will research the item and get back to you? Do you really expect them to know every li detail without touchin base? C'mon now...no one is that silly!
 
Old Apr 4, 2012 | 08:40 PM
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if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys. if employees were paid what they are worth, the quality of workmanship would be excellent. not all would agree because there are a lot of dedicated individuals working at harley dealerships but many times their work goes unnoticed by management who only have their eye on the bottom line. and tons of people getting paid way more than their work deserves too. sad state of affairs indeed.
 
Old Apr 4, 2012 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jo_mama
if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys. if employees were paid what they are worth, the quality of workmanship would be excellent. not all would agree because there are a lot of dedicated individuals working at harley dealerships but many times their work goes unnoticed by management who only have their eye on the bottom line. and tons of people getting paid way more than their work deserves too. sad state of affairs indeed.
Yes, I agree. Most times they know but every once inna while they are kind enuff to say can I call you back after I reserch this, thats what impresses me. With that said trust me, thy're gurus out there with alot more savvy. Like I said, stock doubled back early 90's and instaregs think they rule and HD and HOG and all that is what they believe. It's all good, y'all keep on, be safe...had enuff this bullchit tonite! *laffs
 
Old Apr 4, 2012 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Tampa Fatboy
Didnt I say that they will research the item and get back to you? Do you really expect them to know every li detail without touchin base? C'mon now...no one is that silly!
Having been in parts for the past....oh....26 years I can only tell you what I have experience in my career. Someone who gives a **** WILL know more than just the basics. Problem is, most parts people are there just for a paycheck.
 
Old Apr 4, 2012 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ackman1968
Having been in parts for the past....oh....26 years I can only tell you what I have experience in my career. Someone who gives a **** WILL know more than just the basics. Problem is, most parts people are there just for a paycheck.
ya, problem is finding the ones that know their ****. sounds like this guy he talked to was not that informed or knowledgeable.
 
Old Apr 4, 2012 | 09:33 PM
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1) The weight difference in the comp. would have a negligible effect on mileage. 4 lbs is nothing.
2) The ECM controls a lot of new stuff including the speedo, so again, he was correct.
3)The air cleaners did change in 2010, on the 103", to a larger throttle body so there are SOME fitment issues but some are OK I'm sure.

Sounds kinda like you were on the offensive side and found just the treatment you asked for.

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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 09:38 PM
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It is kind of a sad state of affairs that usually I know more about what I'm buying than the parts people do. I do all of the research myself and just tell the parts guys the part numbers I'm looking for. I can read the details in the parts catalog.

I have no expectations of the parts folks other than to pull the stuff off the shelf from behind the counter and ring up the sale. I'm seldom disappointed.

Not all the parts people are like this around here, but most are.

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kind of reminds me of a guy i worked with many years ago who when asked a question would either give a very detailed answer or say 'I can't think of any reason that won't work'
took me a while to figure out the second answer meant he didn't have a clue and wasn't going to check into it for you
 
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by a10182
a lot of the younger guys who are mechanics do not seem to know a lot about the bikes. The plug them into the computers and it tells them whats wrong and thats about it. Thats why I dont go to harley for anything for the bike I find the old geezers who work out of there garage who have been building bikes since the stone age, they are the ones who can tell you the difference for just about anything bike related
Im with you,I bought a 92 fxrp in rough shape,took it to an indy for tune up ect,hell there were some missing brackets ect and they knew right away and sorted the bike out.Im sure they didn't need a catologue to see whats missing.I asked a guy here at HD what school he went to and he said he did a small engine course at the local college.Hmm ya have to wonder.Sales man ,parts guy whatever, when thats your Job you better know it well!!
 
Old Apr 4, 2012 | 11:46 PM
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I have a TC96B and a TC96 bike. Both yield the same mileage. Have you looked at the counter balancer in The Softail engine? The weight of the equipment is considerably more than the added weight of the SE compensator. The chain, two counter balancer eccentrics and the chain tensioner have a dramatic impact compared to the little old compensator. They soak up a few tenths of a hp and about 1 ft. lb of torque. That has not shown to be enough to impact mpg. EPA ratings on both engines are identical. Also given that the diameter of the compensator is not far out from the center of the crank , it just does not have any impact at all.

You have some thing else going on. Such as you are riding more aggressive with your wonderful new compensator or you started using E10.

Please tell me just what brand motorcycle dealer has a parts department that is any different? I have had Yamaha's. Honda's, Suzuki's and Kawasaki's. All were no different. Even the parts guys at any car dealer are the same.

The independent auto parts stores are the most likely to have much more knowledgeable counter staff. Their survival is more dependent on it than a franchised dealer where much of the parts are used by the dealership.

As you grow up and become more experienced and knowledgeable you will learn this.
 

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