Interresting read
Tourer
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RE: Interresting read
I tracked down the actual article in the Federal Register, and I think everyone is safe. It looks like another case of something that has been around for decades, finally being brought to light, and folks are getting upset about it. Here's how the article ends, the highlights are mine:
We use the term ``tampering' to refer specifically to actions that
are illegal under Clean Air Act section 203; the term, and the
prohibition, do not apply generally to the wide range of actions that a
motorcycle enthusiast can take to personalize his or her motorcycle,
but only to actions that remove or disable emission control devices or
cause the emissions to exceed the standards. We know, from anecdotal
reports and from some data collected from in-use motorcycles, that a
portion of the motorcycle riding population has removed, replaced, or
modified the original equipment on their motorcycles. This
customization can include changes that can be detrimental (or, in some
cases, possibly beneficial) to the motorcycle's emission levels. The
NPRM sought comments and data that could better help us understand the
nature of the issue, such that our final rule decisions could be made
with the best understanding possible of current consumer practices. We
did not propose to revise the existing tampering restrictions or to
prohibit many of the things that motorcycle owners are now doing
legally.
The new emission standards that we are adopting do not change this
``tampering' prohibition, which has been in the Clean Air Act for more
than 20 years. Part manufacturers are still free to make parts, dealers
are free to sell and install parts, and owners are free to customize
their motorcycles in any way, as long as they do not disable emission
controls or cause the motorcycle to exceed the emission standards.
Owners are also free to perform routine maintenance on their
motorcycles to restore or maintain the motorcycle engine and related
components in their original condition and configuration.
So as it stands right now, as long as you don't disable emission controls or make the bike run less emission friendly as it was stock.
If the bike world is like the car world, this means nothing, as my turbo Trans Am made 640hp and ran cleaner than it did stock. As
far as emission controls, an add on pack like a PCIII doesn't disable them as far as I know... but rather modifies the signal - something that doesn't appear to be spelled out in the regulation.
Since the only thing they appear to be changing is the allowable levels of bad emissions, and they aren't touching the modification regulations, which
have been in effect for over 20 years... I think the majority of us with pipes/AC/fuel management will be ok.
http://frwebgate2.access.gpo.gov/cgi...ction=retrieve
We use the term ``tampering' to refer specifically to actions that
are illegal under Clean Air Act section 203; the term, and the
prohibition, do not apply generally to the wide range of actions that a
motorcycle enthusiast can take to personalize his or her motorcycle,
but only to actions that remove or disable emission control devices or
cause the emissions to exceed the standards. We know, from anecdotal
reports and from some data collected from in-use motorcycles, that a
portion of the motorcycle riding population has removed, replaced, or
modified the original equipment on their motorcycles. This
customization can include changes that can be detrimental (or, in some
cases, possibly beneficial) to the motorcycle's emission levels. The
NPRM sought comments and data that could better help us understand the
nature of the issue, such that our final rule decisions could be made
with the best understanding possible of current consumer practices. We
did not propose to revise the existing tampering restrictions or to
prohibit many of the things that motorcycle owners are now doing
legally.
The new emission standards that we are adopting do not change this
``tampering' prohibition, which has been in the Clean Air Act for more
than 20 years. Part manufacturers are still free to make parts, dealers
are free to sell and install parts, and owners are free to customize
their motorcycles in any way, as long as they do not disable emission
controls or cause the motorcycle to exceed the emission standards.
Owners are also free to perform routine maintenance on their
motorcycles to restore or maintain the motorcycle engine and related
components in their original condition and configuration.
So as it stands right now, as long as you don't disable emission controls or make the bike run less emission friendly as it was stock.
If the bike world is like the car world, this means nothing, as my turbo Trans Am made 640hp and ran cleaner than it did stock. As
far as emission controls, an add on pack like a PCIII doesn't disable them as far as I know... but rather modifies the signal - something that doesn't appear to be spelled out in the regulation.
Since the only thing they appear to be changing is the allowable levels of bad emissions, and they aren't touching the modification regulations, which
have been in effect for over 20 years... I think the majority of us with pipes/AC/fuel management will be ok.
http://frwebgate2.access.gpo.gov/cgi...ction=retrieve
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RE: Interresting read
the question that comes to mind, is not how.. but when??
as I see a lot of places clamping down on modified exhaust.
and I'm in, out of the way rural areas. and it cost me $75 to realise ,"its starting"!
as I see a lot of places clamping down on modified exhaust.
and I'm in, out of the way rural areas. and it cost me $75 to realise ,"its starting"!
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Road Master
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From: Oceanside, California
RE: Interresting read
They have more so thought I would bump it up.
feb 06 update if anyone didnt see it.
http://www.aimag.com/epa/owners.htm
By the way anyone here a rumor that they will make a bike for california only in 08?
Was at the dealer and heard that, didnt get any more info than that.
feb 06 update if anyone didnt see it.
http://www.aimag.com/epa/owners.htm
By the way anyone here a rumor that they will make a bike for california only in 08?
Was at the dealer and heard that, didnt get any more info than that.
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From: Pittsburgh, PA
RE: Interresting read
The beginning of the article stated 2006 and up bikes.
Does that mean I am beyond getting a wrist slap and wallet lightening from the EPA with my 2003?
Elect Clinton, or Obama,and see what we get!!!!![sm=boosign.gif]
Does that mean I am beyond getting a wrist slap and wallet lightening from the EPA with my 2003?
Elect Clinton, or Obama,and see what we get!!!!![sm=boosign.gif]
Road Warrior
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From: Matthews, NC
RE: Interresting read
What I gathered from that read is that the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) is willing to turn the other cheek if they get paid? WTF? Tell me I am reading a self derived opinion and not the truth.
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Road Master
Joined: Dec 2006
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From: Oceanside, California
RE: Interresting read
Some where I read and at the Harley Dealer in fremont, ca the said the law was passed in 79 so they could go back that far for any alterations done.
Yes on the EPA, give them cash and they let it go, Jesse offered to bring all the bikes he has made
up to californias requirement but they took the money and let it go, So its the almighty Buck they want.
Yes on the EPA, give them cash and they let it go, Jesse offered to bring all the bikes he has made
up to californias requirement but they took the money and let it go, So its the almighty Buck they want.
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