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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 07:12 AM
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Felt pretty helpless watching this accident develop.

Riding home on a 2 lane highway by a high school, I notice another bike about 1/4 mile ahead of me going to turn left into the school. As soon as he starts his turn, a car slows but never stops exiting the parking lot. The scoot was directly in front of the car when she hit him.

Stopped to help....he was pretty much ok, some road rash, bad bump on the head etc., but up and talking. High schooler with a pretty cool rat rod pretty bent up.

Could have been worse. HE WAS RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER!! Could not believe my eyes.
 
Old Jun 7, 2012 | 08:19 AM
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She was probably:

A. Texting
B. Dialing
C. Putting on make-up
D. Changing into her stripper clothes
E. Turned around talking to a friend in the back seat
F. All of the above
 
Old Jun 7, 2012 | 08:25 AM
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Scary to see happen what we all fear will happen to us.
 
Old Jun 7, 2012 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by kzoo
HE WAS RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER!! Could not believe my eyes.
As was SHE right in front of HIM. Why was he continuing to move if she was still pulling out? Not trying to point fingers here, but the rider HAS to accept some responsibility.

IDK Man, you can't trust anyone these days. If I'm coming up to an intersection or anywhere like that (turning or not), I watch the car's tires. If they're still moving, then I'm NOT.
 
Old Jun 7, 2012 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by AnotherBlackSG
As was SHE right in front of HIM. Why was he continuing to move if she was still pulling out? Not trying to point fingers here, but the rider HAS to accept some responsibility.

IDK Man, you can't trust anyone these days. If I'm coming up to an intersection or anywhere like that (turning or not), I watch the car's tires. If they're still moving, then I'm NOT.

he was right in front of her. he was on the road, she was in the parking lot. if he had of stopped, it sounds like she would still have run him over. what kind of responsibility do you think he should take? i guess you could say it's half his fault cause if he were going to work instead of going to school, he wouldn't have been there for her to run over.....
 
Old Jun 7, 2012 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by AnotherBlackSG
As was SHE right in front of HIM. Why was he continuing to move if she was still pulling out? Not trying to point fingers here, but the rider HAS to accept some responsibility.

IDK Man, you can't trust anyone these days. If I'm coming up to an intersection or anywhere like that (turning or not), I watch the car's tires. If they're still moving, then I'm NOT.
Actually stopping, it sounds like, would have been the wrong choice too. Gassing it would have moved him out of her line of travel but I don't know if that was an option. He's slowing to make a left into the driveway she's coming out of. He may not even seen she was pulling out since he'd be focused on oncoming traffic and would only catch her out of his perifrial vision. She doesn't stop and drives into him. Not the riders fault on any level.
 
Old Jun 7, 2012 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by AnotherBlackSG
As was SHE right in front of HIM. Why was he continuing to move if she was still pulling out? Not trying to point fingers here, but the rider HAS to accept some responsibility.

IDK Man, you can't trust anyone these days. If I'm coming up to an intersection or anywhere like that (turning or not), I watch the car's tires. If they're still moving, then I'm NOT.
Based on what is described, while the rider MAY have been able to avoid getting hit had he been a bit more experienced or made a different choice or whatever, the cager is 100% at fault. The chick in the cage was entering traffic from a parking lot. Doing so safely is 100% her responsibility.
 
Old Jun 7, 2012 | 11:01 AM
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How can you say it's his fault, he is in the street turning, she was in a parking lot where she needs to come to a stop before preceding into the street. HE has the right of way
 
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by AnotherBlackSG
As was SHE right in front of HIM. Why was he continuing to move if she was still pulling out? Not trying to point fingers here, but the rider HAS to accept some responsibility.

IDK Man, you can't trust anyone these days. If I'm coming up to an intersection or anywhere like that (turning or not), I watch the car's tires. If they're still moving, then I'm NOT.
He was on the road, rider on the road has right of way to someone coming onto his street from a driveway or side street. I know, I know, you can be dead right, literally and figuratively.

I do agree that if you want to get to where you are going on two wheels, you should be watching for that kind of thing to happen. Like you, I watch the wheels of vehicles that potentially want to go where I am at.
 
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Originally Posted by Robotech
He's slowing to make a left into the driveway she's coming out of. He may not even seen she was pulling out since he'd be focused on oncoming traffic and would only catch her out of his perifrial vision. She doesn't stop and drives into him. Not the riders fault on any level.
Wow, are you serious? You mean you don't look in the direction you're turning, long before you start your turn? It's OUR responsibility to look & see EVERYTHING that's going on around us - no one else is!

If the guy was turning into the school and didn't see a car exiting the same driveway, then there's something wrong. If someone is only able to concentrate on things in front of him while executing a turn, then he has no business riding a motorcycle.

You see, these are the types of situations that make people think that bikes are inherently dangerous. People who ride correctly, rarely crash. I'm not saying that accidents don't happen, but more often than not, it's rider error that causes them. Pay attention and assume that everyone is out to kill you!

He was on the road, rider on the road has right of way to someone coming onto his street from a driveway or side street. I know, I know, you can be dead right, literally and figuratively.
That's funny! "Right of way"!? On 2 wheels, you have to throw that law/logic right out the window. Legality has nothing to do with staying alive out there.
 

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