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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 08:11 PM
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After owning a couple of dozen chain driven Harleys,it has taken me a while to feel comfortable with the belt.Much quiter and no oil slinging everywhere.All the pro's tell me with proper maintenance,the belt and pulleys should last much longer than a chain.It is a little unnerving thinking how much of a chore it would be to replace the belt over a chain.We will see how it goes.
I've been running a belt since 1986 and have never had to replace one. The longest I've gone (before trading) is around 68,000 miles. I have a friend that had 167,000 on his original belt with no problems. When I ran a chain I had to change it every year and had to adjust it several times a season. I'm not saying that chains are bad but the belt is much more efficient and trouble free.
 
Old Jan 10, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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02 Electraglide-Removed belt and went back to chainlast year. About 13k on it and ready to change due to resizing of rear sprocket. For me it is not a big deal as for the cleanliness of a belt over chain.I ride every day and wash the bike frequently.Just did not trust the belt with my riding habits/style! As for the vibration/noise issue,I cannot tell the difference between when the belt was on versus the chain.Tsubaki chromed o-ring 10k tensile. I do not want to get stuck with a broke belt when out on a cross country ride and the chain offers me the ability to at least have a chance to get somewhere.
 
Old Jan 10, 2007 | 08:46 PM
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Yes I miss the days of the oil up the back of the t-shirt and the rain storm with no front fender, NOT !!!!!!!!!
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“Yes I miss the days of the oil up the back of the t-shirt and the rain storm with no front fender, NOT !!!!!!!!! “

I might shoot up a10 foot rooster tail of rain out the back of my ride, been known to do that, but never had oil up my back ? how does that work, fonz ?

Hay, what I said was the truth, belts can’t take the horse power, I am not trying to step on any bodys boots here, I am not talking the ease of not cleaning the rear of a bike with a belt vs chain.

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ps: when harley came out with the final drive belt I think in ’80 they advertise it, buy hold up the bike off the floor with the belt around and under the tank, around the belt was held up by 1 of the 5 or 6 strands that they used in the belt, look pretty cool, but they did sell a temporary belt you could take on a far ride also ? it had like a master link in it, so easy road side fix.



 
Old Jan 10, 2007 | 09:25 PM
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I ran nothing but "chained" Harley's from 1972 up until a few years ago when I got my '96 WideGlide , and after messing withchains foraround 25years I don't miss them one bit.....

Constant adjustment, trying not to use too much, or too little oil on them, etc., etc......

I was a little leary of going with the belt drive, but have found them to be very dependable.Normally change them out at around 50,000 miles, but I know guys with 75,000+ miles on them without any problems.

Sure, if you are running 'high horsepower/torque' applications a chain is the only way to go, especially if you are making constant full throttle runs, but for normal output engines up to 100 horsepower a belt if fine.

 
Old Jan 10, 2007 | 09:43 PM
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Boss Hoss runs a belt on their bikes. You don't see many of them breaking.
 
Old Jan 10, 2007 | 11:02 PM
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"I might shoot up a10 foot rooster tail of rain out the back of my ride, been known to do that, but never had oil up my back ? how does that work, fonz ?"

Back years ago HDs had a small drip oiler on the chains to keep them lubricated and if they dripped to much the chain would sling the excess oil all over the place. Have a friend who was a motor officer in the 70's tell me about just yesterday


 
Old Jan 11, 2007 | 12:44 AM
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As the saying goes, if I have to explain you wouldnt understand.
 
Old Jan 11, 2007 | 07:53 PM
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Boss Hoss runs a belt on their bikes. You don't see many of them breaking.
Wonder if it has anything to do with the slush-box semi-auto tranny?
 
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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I ran nothing but "chained" Harley's from 1972 up until a few years ago when I got my '96 WideGlide , and after messing withchains foraround 25years I don't miss them one bit.....

Constant adjustment, trying not to use too much, or too little oil on them, etc., etc......

I was a little leary of going with the belt drive, but have found them to be very dependable.Normally change them out at around 50,000 miles, but I know guys with 75,000+ miles on them without any problems.

Sure, if you are running 'high horsepower/torque' applications a chain is the only way to go, especially if you are making constant full throttle runs, but for normal output engines up to 100 horsepower a belt if fine.


"OldFenderGuy"
“I ran nothing but "chained" Harley's from 1972 up until a few years ago when I got my '96 WideGlide , and after messing with chains for around 25 years I don't miss them one bit..... “

They do take some care and feeding : - )

“Constant adjustment, trying not to use too much, or too little oil on them, etc., etc...... “

Didn’t use an O ring type ? all you do is spray it once in awhile with 100% silicone, clear, no drips or slings. nothing near constant adjustment.

“I was a little leary of going with the belt drive, but have found them to be very dependable. Normally change them out at around 50,000 miles, but I know guys with 75,000+ miles on them without any problems. “

That is true except if one day a small stone/bolt/nut gets caught between the belt and pulley (small hole), somewhat rare but it dose happen, now that was the only time I mention a bad thing with a belt and that is not something I would do as taking off a belt off a new bike and putting on a chain. I never even hinted that belts were not dependable, what we have here it seems to be a failure to communication or there are some very sensitive people here, (not you OFG), I said chains are used the most with here let me copy what I said….” if you ever seen those fire breathing monster engines, take a look, it has a chain on it,” now what part of “fire breathing monster engines” doesn’t someone get ?

“Sure, if you are running 'high horsepower/torque' applications a chain is the only way to go, especially if you are making constant full throttle runs, but for normal output engines up to 100 horsepower a belt if fine.”

You know what your talking about, I wasn’t inferring belts couldn’t hold up to stage I or II, I am talking lots of horsepower and torque ! remember “fire breathing monster engines”

There are only a very few things that people do to their rides that really gets to me and it’s not run belts, the one that makes me real crazy is someone all of a sudden what a chopper look, he does it cheap and dangerous way, buy’s a rake triple tree, (instead of the right way raking the neck) adds some over length tubes and thinks he has a real chopper, all he really has is a dangerous bike that will get him in all kinds of trouble, not bs between belt and chain.

Ride safe, thanks for the input
cj

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Hay that is your shovel above !

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sweet shovel pretty much stock except for the drag bars right ?
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 09:01 PM
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Boss Hoss runs a belt on their bikes. You don't see many of them breaking.
Boss Hoss runs a belt on their bikes. You don't see many of them breaking.
I also seen years ago 2 and 3 wheel BH with shafts so ? cj
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