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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 04:57 PM
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Pagman, get rid of the tape and/or dope. Be sure to remove ALL of that crap. Then get a #012 o-ring (if memory serves). It should have to be stretched and rolled into position on the plug and the fit should be tight. Lube it with a drop of motor oil and install (no more than snug). I guarantee it will not roll up, tear, or otherwise move from it's location on the plug, nor will it leak.
Thanks for your advice. I did exactly that with the exception that i added a piece of teflon tape. Prehaps I went a bit beyond snug and that is what's making the oring flare up. I'll keep an eye on the drain plug being that it's firm in place and that the oring is only slightly flared this time (but still inside the edges of the hex head). If there are any signs of leaks, i'll reservice the drain plug with a new oring minus the teflon tape.
 
Old Jun 20, 2012 | 05:23 PM
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Just wondering if those that are experiencing all this drain plug drama has tried torquing the drain plug to factory spec?

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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 05:24 PM
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Roadlord and Leftcoaster.... sigh, where do I begin? I just wanted to know why my oring got squished and you guys are at each other's throats! Roadlord, your methods work because you're passionate about what you do and you take an extra measurement to secure your work. Leftcoaster, you're adamant in working precisely to the manufacturer's specs and it seems like you adhere to those standards (i sound like a damn horoscope). I don't think there's anything wrong with either method just as long as it works as it should for your individual needs. In this case, a non-leaky drain plug. Seriously, the two of you disapprove of using plumbers tape and I just used it myself. Am I a welp too? (what the hell is that anyway??) Personally, I'm strict about adhering to certain standards and I improvise on others with my own methods. Simply speaking, we all want to achieve the same goals. "Can't we all just get along?" (just don't drown in your pool).
 
Old Jun 20, 2012 | 05:30 PM
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Just wondering if those that are experiencing all this drain plug drama has tried torquing the drain plug to factory spec?

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LOL, I was wondering who was going to bring that up. I have the long needle based one which I feel is difficult to get an exact reading. Do you know what the factory spec is?
 
Old Jun 20, 2012 | 06:49 PM
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Pagman, there's only two reasons why that o-ring pushes out: using the wrong o-ring or using teflon tape/pipe dope on the threads. That's all and that's it.
I told you this right from the start, man and then you put teflon tape on your plug, and the o-ring pushed out. What more is there to say?

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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Leftcoaster
Pagman, there's only two reasons why that o-ring pushes out: using the wrong o-ring or using teflon tape/pipe dope on the threads. That's all and that's it.
I told you this right from the start, man and then you put teflon tape on your plug, and the o-ring pushed out. What more is there to say?

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Actually, i put the teflon tape before i read the reply. Otherwise, I would have not. I'll take your word on it. I'll replace the oring with the last oring i have (which i bought from harley) after work, remove the teflon tape, and will then let you know the results. Once again, here i drain the oil...
 
Old Jun 20, 2012 | 11:01 PM
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I think you might be over tightening the thing, are you using a torgue wrench?
It's been asked before, but no answer. You said you like thing tight, well maybe
your overdoing it, ya think?
 
Old Jun 21, 2012 | 02:51 AM
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I think you might be over tightening the thing, are you using a torgue wrench?
It's been asked before, but no answer. You said you like thing tight, well maybe
your overdoing it, ya think?
As previously stated in post #11, overtightening the drain plug will not damage the o-ring. The o-ring fits into a groove and seat that are dimensioned such that the correct crush is applied to the o-ring when the drain plug is seated. Torquing the drain plug to any value over and above whatever it takes to completely seat the drain plug (as it should be) will not change the dimensions of the groove or seat, therefore the o-ring compression will not change with additional torque on the drain plug.

If the o-ring is being damaged in anyway while installing the drain plug there is some other problem causing it... It is not the torque!
 
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Leftcoaster
Pagman, get rid of the tape and/or dope. Be sure to remove ALL of that crap. Then get a #012 o-ring (if memory serves). It should have to be stretched and rolled into position on the plug and the fit should be tight. Lube it with a drop of motor oil and install (no more than snug). I guarantee it will not roll up, tear, or otherwise move from it's location on the plug, nor will it leak.
RoadLord O'RoadLord, Ya know, just because you been using your pipe dope for years doesn't make it correct. It isn't, man. If you want to slather your machines with that crap, slather away - they're your bikes. But doing that to someone else's machine is just plain wrong as is suggesting that someone else do the same.
Dude, wake up and smell the coffee - HD actually moved into the 20th century with they're cases and machine work many years ago (early 80's). Too bad you didn't move with 'em.
I do no slathering sir, I just put a nice little ring about the bolt and in she goes an NO WORRIES! I smell the coffee and it's the 21st Century kind! I'm still waiting for Harley to follow suit! :-)
 
Old Jun 21, 2012 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Pagman
Roadlord and Leftcoaster.... sigh, where do I begin? I just wanted to know why my oring got squished and you guys are at each other's throats! Roadlord, your methods work because you're passionate about what you do and you take an extra measurement to secure your work. Leftcoaster, you're adamant in working precisely to the manufacturer's specs and it seems like you adhere to those standards (i sound like a damn horoscope). I don't think there's anything wrong with either method just as long as it works as it should for your individual needs. In this case, a non-leaky drain plug. Seriously, the two of you disapprove of using plumbers tape and I just used it myself. Am I a welp too? (what the hell is that anyway??) Personally, I'm strict about adhering to certain standards and I improvise on others with my own methods. Simply speaking, we all want to achieve the same goals. "Can't we all just get along?" (just don't drown in your pool).
I didn't think I was at anyone's throat, after attending HDU it was their practice and still is to use the compound as a way to insure that you have a good seal and be sure to use the proper torque when tightening the drain plug WITH 'o' ring. Here's the thing, the pipe dope aint gonna hurt anything and could actually help... just saying :-)
 



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