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agreed with all of the above except "staying on the right of the lane". That, for me is definitely wrong, it's like inviting them to overtake in your lane.
i wasn't saying to go to the extreme right of the lane, just slightly right of center. and not for a long period of time, just a few seconds before you're actually making the turn. if you've never seen anyone try to pass on the right, when you're making a right turn, it is ugly. could have been uglier, but the rider saw him in time and didn't complete the turn. i'd much rather someone pass on the left when i'm making a right turn than vice versa.
Originally Posted by Thundermug
don't think like a democrat and say you can use whatever side you want....use the left side as it is more "in front" of the driver behind you, and not in his peripheral vision area.
peripheral vision is almost 90* to your side. unless the car is literally right on top of you, 3 feet to either side is not going to make much difference.
Brighter tail lights do make my life a lot easier. I installed the LED's on my tourpak and feel that I am way more visible now. I also tap the brakes well before in a turn to allow anyone following me to know that I am slowing down and to back off.
I don't know if it is possible in your situation but when I have been in the same situation. I start setting up that turn as soon as I can and keep some rolling speed by timing my turn to traffic. Not sure if I explained that clear. What it means is that I want the bike in the appropriate gear for my speed and to maintain a roll so I am not a sitting duck waiting to die on a hood.
Originally Posted by skully1200
Everyone seems to have left out a very important detail. Assume the other drivers don't see you at all, no matter how many arms you're waving around, and be prepared to act accordingly.
I live in a development where I have to turn left off of a two lane road with a 55 mph speed limit. Sometimes I have to come to a complete stop waiting for oncoming traffic to clear. Talk about vulnerable. I think being rear ended is definitely one of the hardest things to defend yourself against.
I don't know if it is possible in your situation but when I have been in the same situation. I start setting up that turn as soon as I can and keep some rolling speed by timing my turn to traffic. Not sure if I explained that clear. What it means is that I want the bike in the appropriate gear for my speed and to maintain a roll so I am not a sitting duck waiting to die on a hood.
Oh, I try to keep rolling too, and don't stop unless absolutely necessary, but sometimes traffic is what it is, and you have to wait.
I slow down rather than speed up, for me that is common pratice at red lights and turns.
I also use THE FINGER a lot, one thing I hate is impatient people sitting stopped at side streets and they start rolling as you approach, you don't know if they see you or not, they get THE FINGER every time.
I hate waiting in traffic and I hate it when I misjudge traffic flow or red lights and have to stop. Even after all these years of riding I hate that sitting still at anything and being a dead duck. The only time I stop at stop signs is when the po--po is looking. Otherwise that isn't anything but a red yield sign to me. I am aggressive about maintain my space at red lights and having an escape strategy. Sounds paranoid till you see someone you care about confined to a wheel chair for the rest of his life over someone running him over at a red light.
Originally Posted by skully1200
Oh, I try to keep rolling too, and don't stop unless absolutely necessary, but sometimes traffic is what it is, and you have to wait.
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