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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 11:24 AM
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Even though my wife rode with me for years and learned many things (good and bad from me) before she decided that she wanted her own bike she still insists that I always ride in front.
Thinking back, her biggest obstacle, which didn't take long to overcome, was leaning the bike into curves.
THe second or third year she road we met an old friend of mine at the dealership and he had a new GF who also had a Sportster Hugger just like my wife.
We invited them to ride home with us and his GF did fine until we got on a country road with a few mild curves and trying to get her to keep up was like pulling an anchor.
I convinced my wife to have a female-to-female talk with her we then rode with them from our house to the freeway and there was some improvement.
THe next time we saw them, she was a Road Captain in their local HOG Chapter!
 
Old Oct 7, 2012 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by oldairboater
I will ride in front and stagger left to control the lane. I tell the other person with less experience to try and keep up but to also ride within their limits. If they start to lag we slow to their speed. If I am riding with someone that means we ride safely together. Seen enough *** hats that think they are too good to help an inexperienced rider. I don't like people like that. Everyone had to learn sometime.
There's all kinds of people like that. It's too bad really. Some new riders can be fairly apprehensive to begin with so it's important for a more experienced rider to lose their bullshit attitude (if they had one) and lead by example. Learning to ride shouldn't have to be that stressful. Everyone's different but I choose to be the follower in those situations. I prefer to watch new riders and their habits and let them set the pace even if they might ride slower than me.
 
Old Oct 7, 2012 | 12:48 PM
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I prefer to lead. I set an easy pace and a tap of my brakes alerts the newbie ( it was my son in law) to possible danger/warning to watch for cars waiting to pull out, curves coming up..road hazards etc..I also outfitted us both with Scala rider com ( I have an ultra and just added another mic/speakers to my helmet. He said he learned a great deal by following me and watching what I do. So, for me, it's to lead.
The first season with son in law riding, we also had an experienced friend tuck in third. He kept any tailgaters off my son in law.
 
Old Oct 7, 2012 | 01:20 PM
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Never ride with cheesedicks.They can learn,or not,on somebody else's time. Anybody who can't ride tandem,isn't good enough to ride safely with.
 
Old Oct 7, 2012 | 01:36 PM
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Not to say your wrong but I prefer to be in front. I watch the mirrors because new riders have too much information to process safely. I have rode a long time and when I was learning to ride road. I was taught to ride with the group about 40 years ago as a teen. That didn't include the eights years before that on dirt/road as a young kid. I learned to ride in dirt but the group taught me how to survive the road. I learned a lot, safely insulated by the group. Group could mean just two or many. Older experienced riders kept me alive and taught me. I have never forgot that and I am still learning. I was taken cared of by people that cared as a kid. New riders need to be led. They can hit curves too fast for their skills. They don't process intersections as fully as experienced riders do. By being in front I can set up the example and control the situation. I can look at a cage and make crucial decisions in micro seconds that inexperienced riders can't yet. All of this is a specialized skill set that some people dismiss stupidly. Like stated in a previous post. I will signal a new rider up past me when we run across the dangerous tailgater. I handle tailgaters with a mixed bag of tricks. Sometimes gently ---sometimes not. These answers are not complete enough to cover exceptions. As I was typing this I thought of an exception. I will not let anyone that only uses their back brake ride behind me.
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There's all kinds of people like that. It's too bad really. Some new riders can be fairly apprehensive to begin with so it's important for a more experienced rider to lose their bullshit attitude (if they had one) and lead by example. Learning to ride shouldn't have to be that stressful. Everyone's different but I choose to be the follower in those situations. I prefer to watch new riders and their habits and let them set the pace even if they might ride slower than me.
 
Old Oct 7, 2012 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by oldairboater
Not to say your wrong but I prefer to be in front. I watch the mirrors because new riders have too much information to process safely. I have rode a long time and when I was learning to ride road. I was taught to ride with the group about 40 years ago as a teen. That didn't include the eights years before that on dirt/road as a young kid. I learned to ride in dirt but the group taught me how to survive the road. I learned a lot, safely insulated by the group. Group could mean just two or many. Older experienced riders kept me alive and taught me. I have never forgot that and I am still learning. I was taken cared of by people that cared as a kid. New riders need to be led. They can hit curves too fast for their skills. They don't process intersections as fully as experienced riders do. By being in front I can set up the example and control the situation. I can look at a cage and make crucial decisions in micro seconds that inexperienced riders can't yet. All of this is a specialized skill set that some people dismiss stupidly. Like stated in a previous post. I will signal a new rider up past me when we run across the dangerous tailgater. I handle tailgaters with a mixed bag of tricks. Sometimes gently ---sometimes not. These answers are not complete enough to cover exceptions. As I was typing this I thought of an exception. I will not let anyone that only uses their back brake ride behind me.
That's a good point, nice to hear it from a different perspective. I've ridden with people who's skills are downright scary so I tend to want to follow them so I can better see what they might want to work on. On the other hand, if I was up front I wouldn't be potentially throwing a newbie under the bus. And you mentioned intersections. It's pretty damned crucial to process an intersection before going through one. I was mangled in a wreck at 50 mph 8 years ago and I swear to this day I could have avoided that by paying closer attention to the surroundings. I had 20 years riding under my belt at the time so I wasn't a new rider by any means, just got caught with my head in my ***. It's difficult to get the message across to a new rider that riding is fun and relaxing but they don't have a roll cage of metal around them to save their *** if something happens.
 
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