Packing Heat 2
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Road Captain
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RE: Packing Heat 2
It is useless to try and explain my position or anyones because regardless of what we tell you....your mind is already solidly made up and you will not change it. I've had this conversation a million times and NOBODY ever changes their mind.
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ORIGINAL: badherb
Some very well worded answers and I thank you for them.
As for the name calling and obvious misunderstanding of this post I have not and still will not form an opion about YOU unless I meet you face to face. I did not call anyone names nor did I label law abiding people.
Some people have reasons to carry a weapons and I asked them for that reason. I do not carry one. And still have yet to find a reason why I would need to. My experience is that I have indeed met everyone of the labels I put on people in my original post. The "I got a gun now I'm cool" to the one that would pull out their weapon use it and not think again about it. My ignorance is that I have yet to meet someone with an intelliegentreason to actually carry a gun everyday. Accept for LEOs. Maybe in your next posting you can intellegently relay that reason. As for TXharleyguy, lowrider, az rider, you obviously have only preceived my opinion and not looked at my post. I have guns shoot guns and think guns are our right to have and hold. Second ammendment is a good thing and all that.
Thank you to those that read the post and simply answered the question, name calling shows your aggrogance and ignorance. I'm not a pot sturrer either. Just interested in why people see the need to carry a weapon andeven more interested in the need for it to be concealed.
bosnmate I will answer your question because you asked one and had something intellengent to say.
No. I would rather you not deploy you weapon. but if you wanted to jump the the person that was attempting to harm my family I would like that. See I would already have been on top of them making sure they could do no harm. I don't flinch. IF my famliy is in harms way I'll stand and fight without thinking. If I owned a pistol and carried one I'd have murder 1 on my sheet. Not sure killing someone because I think it was the right thing would sit well with a jury of my peers. I'll protect what is mine. But not go to jail do so.
Some very well worded answers and I thank you for them.
As for the name calling and obvious misunderstanding of this post I have not and still will not form an opion about YOU unless I meet you face to face. I did not call anyone names nor did I label law abiding people.
Some people have reasons to carry a weapons and I asked them for that reason. I do not carry one. And still have yet to find a reason why I would need to. My experience is that I have indeed met everyone of the labels I put on people in my original post. The "I got a gun now I'm cool" to the one that would pull out their weapon use it and not think again about it. My ignorance is that I have yet to meet someone with an intelliegentreason to actually carry a gun everyday. Accept for LEOs. Maybe in your next posting you can intellegently relay that reason. As for TXharleyguy, lowrider, az rider, you obviously have only preceived my opinion and not looked at my post. I have guns shoot guns and think guns are our right to have and hold. Second ammendment is a good thing and all that.
Thank you to those that read the post and simply answered the question, name calling shows your aggrogance and ignorance. I'm not a pot sturrer either. Just interested in why people see the need to carry a weapon andeven more interested in the need for it to be concealed.
bosnmate I will answer your question because you asked one and had something intellengent to say.
No. I would rather you not deploy you weapon. but if you wanted to jump the the person that was attempting to harm my family I would like that. See I would already have been on top of them making sure they could do no harm. I don't flinch. IF my famliy is in harms way I'll stand and fight without thinking. If I owned a pistol and carried one I'd have murder 1 on my sheet. Not sure killing someone because I think it was the right thing would sit well with a jury of my peers. I'll protect what is mine. But not go to jail do so.
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ORIGINAL: Arizona
Beign without one is like riding your bike without insurance... You only need one when you don't have it and when you do finally need it you need it VERY badly.Having vehicle insurance is something you maybe only put to use once every 10 yrs or more (hopefully, lol)? But the one day you need it makes you realize why you paid for it the other 20 years before.
Things don't always happen to the "other guy" unfortunately.
Beign without one is like riding your bike without insurance... You only need one when you don't have it and when you do finally need it you need it VERY badly.Having vehicle insurance is something you maybe only put to use once every 10 yrs or more (hopefully, lol)? But the one day you need it makes you realize why you paid for it the other 20 years before.
Things don't always happen to the "other guy" unfortunately.
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RE: Packing Heat 2
ORIGINAL: badherb
My mind is not made up. I think that is clear by the statements I have posted before. I'm always willing to hear intellegent arguements. If they make sense and well thought out. Will I ever carry don't know. I have never felt that I needed to. Being a big person has it advantages.
It is useless to try and explain my position or anyones because regardless of what we tell you....your mind is already solidly made up and you will not change it. I've had this conversation a million times and NOBODY ever changes their mind.
Trust me...your mind is made up....you just don't know it. It's very rare for anyone to change their natural first instinct on thissubject. Your opinion is ingrained and I'd be shocked if it changes. If you don't want to carry...more power to you....but don't mess with my right to do so.
I have to admit I don't carry frequently but I will defend the right of someone to do so vehemently. Now if someone were to ever break into our house with intent to do us bodily harm....then all I can say is god help em.
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In an unarmed conflict I will use my feet to leave,
I'm not prone to violence. Armed or unarmed threats to my saftey and or my family will be dealt with quicker than a bat of an eye. I'm not saying it will be a fair fight, but someone will be limping or crawling away, might even be me.
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RE: Packing Heat 2
ORIGINAL: Hammer02
Really....broken a collar bone with a magazine? Please share the details.
ORIGINAL: bosnmate
By the way, I have broken collar bones with a regular old reading magazine.
By the way, I have broken collar bones with a regular old reading magazine.
Roll it up tight...
"Stab" someone with it...
it will NOT tickle.
Not sure what Bosnmate does to break collar bones but I have a good idea that I would not want to be on the receiving end.
ANYTHING can be a weapon in the "right" hands.
I was actually arrested once for having a Swiss Army knife... Told the cop flat out that if I was going to shank someone I was going for my pen and not that stupid knife.
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Hi Mark here from Toronto. Up North here we have very strict hand gun laws. leo's and private security and a very few individuals are allowed to carry . You can buy an illegal handgun on the streets of Toronto for about $500.00 . Of course it will probably have been stolen from someone in the states and then smuggled across the border. These weapons have ususally been used in some sort of crime and get dumped here for a quick sale and profit. The only issue I have is that the lax gun laws in the united states have made Canadian gangs up here better armed than the police. I travel south every winter for a 2 month vacation and have only felt threatened once, while we were in San antonio tx in 1998. If someone feels paranoid enough to want to carry , so be it . I say enjoy life, think on the positive side and stop worrying.After reading all the posts from people who carry . I have a question ? Are you always thinkingyou are going to be attackedin some way.If you are, you are wasting a great deal of time and energy . Let it ride man, relax, take a deep breath and enjoy life while you can. Leave law enforcement to the police while outside your home. Keep all the guns you want in your own house but please lock them up so that they don't end up here killing someone...
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Too young too carry but I probably would if I could
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RE: Packing Heat 2
ORIGINAL: Hammer02
Really....broken a collar bone with a magazine? Please share the details as this seems too ridiculous to be true.
ORIGINAL: bosnmate
By the way, I have broken collar bones with a regular old reading magazine.
By the way, I have broken collar bones with a regular old reading magazine.
I busted the guys lip, bloodied his nose, blackened his right eyeand with a little luck I was able to break the collar bone. He just dropped is right arm and tilted his head to the left, leaving that poor thin little bone sticking right out there unprotected. I put all 245 lbs of my weight behind the magazine and brought it down on the bone. When the police arrived they were dumb struck when I handedthem a torn, blood stained magazine. This happened at the airport and it started out as a man arguing with his wife. He pushed her and then with a closed fist punched her right in the mouth and just about knocked her out. That is all it took for me to whip him with a magazine.
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I applaud you for having the ***** to step in and get involved.
Most of those who rail on against guns.....would have stood and watched or worse yet walked by and pretended not to see it.
Most of those who rail on against guns.....would have stood and watched or worse yet walked by and pretended not to see it.