Rubber Mounting Vs Counter-Balanced Engine
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RE: Rubber Mounting Vs Counter-Balanced Engine
To be totally honest, I wouldn'tseeing theB engine put into the touring line for a couple of reasons...
[ul][*]Although the rubber mounted engine does smooth right out with just a little throttle, I don't think I'd miss the shake at idle.[*]The Softails don't have the infamous rear wheel "wallow" due to the swingarm being mounted to the engine - which in turn is rubber mounted. In other words, the Softails don't need 3rd party swingarm enhancements. [/ul]
But that said, I wouldn't trade anything for the baggers' suspension system.
[ul][*]Although the rubber mounted engine does smooth right out with just a little throttle, I don't think I'd miss the shake at idle.[*]The Softails don't have the infamous rear wheel "wallow" due to the swingarm being mounted to the engine - which in turn is rubber mounted. In other words, the Softails don't need 3rd party swingarm enhancements. [/ul]
But that said, I wouldn't trade anything for the baggers' suspension system.
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From: Polygamy Plains, Utah
RE: Rubber Mounting Vs Counter-Balanced Engine
as far as I'm concerned,
disclaimer: IMHO......
H-D poosied the engine with that counterbalancing crap.
They wanted to get rid of the shake on the Softails without making them rubber glides. They should have left the engine alone, or let the consumer decide which engine they wanted. I would prefer the shake of the engine.
They should have called it a Poosie Glide.
My late wife would have hated the counter balanced 88B.
I couldn't keep her off the hard tail 62 Pan. She called it the "O-Glide"
disclaimer: IMHO......
H-D poosied the engine with that counterbalancing crap.
They wanted to get rid of the shake on the Softails without making them rubber glides. They should have left the engine alone, or let the consumer decide which engine they wanted. I would prefer the shake of the engine.
They should have called it a Poosie Glide.
My late wife would have hated the counter balanced 88B.
I couldn't keep her off the hard tail 62 Pan. She called it the "O-Glide"
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From: Windham,Maine
RE: Rubber Mounting Vs Counter-Balanced Engine
It sure is you! I love the shaking,if the MoCo ever takes it all away I will never buy another new one.After all it is a huge 2 cylinder V-Twin.
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From: east cen.miss
RE: Rubber Mounting Vs Counter-Balanced Engine
I love my Road King just the way it is,shakes and all.My old 72 Wisconsin vibrator shakes all the time,The faster you go the more it vibrates.It's a great old bike but that's just what it is,an old bike.Women love it.
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From: East NM
RE: Rubber Mounting Vs Counter-Balanced Engine
From back when they started making the original rubbermount FXR, the rubber engine mounts never trickled down to the Softail because the frame design prevented it. The B engine is more costly to build and, because there are more moving parts, there are more chances that something in the engine will go wrong. On top of that, it costs about 1 ft/lb of torque to fling the balance weights around. The plus side of the B engine is that you can set a wrench on the seat with the engine idling and it will stay there.
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From: Glendale, AZ
RE: Rubber Mounting Vs Counter-Balanced Engine
I too love the shaking. Reminds me what I spent all that money on. Shakin and noise. Even my wife wants to ride more. She says it's like a big vibrator. If I added a cam I bet she'd never get off.....of the bike that is.
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RE: Rubber Mounting Vs Counter-Balanced Engine
Gee, I don't have the rubber mounts or the counterbalanced motor on my 96 FXSTC and it idles good and runs at speed good. Just don't know ant better, I guess. Hint: mirrors don't vibrate at stops if you keep the front brake applied.
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From: Russellville, Arkansas
RE: Rubber Mounting Vs Counter-Balanced Engine
I personally do not like the Twin Cam B engines at all. More things to go wrong and a little less power....but is not really noticeable. They don't shake and are crystal clear at idle....but every 2000-up Softail I rode has a little buzz when riding at highway speeds.
The EVO softails were just different. I like those softails better anyways....short trips though.
The old FXR and the Touringbikes have the same rubber mounted system. The same system from 1980. It is more complex, but is extremely smooth and very clear speeds. I love the shake at idle....only a dumbass would think it was a Honda. People know you are on a Harley.....
The Dyna has little different shake from the other systems in the way they ride though. This system is a simple design of 1991 and is more like the automotive world. The mounts are tough and rarely wear out like the Touring versions. I would like to see the Dyna rubber mounted system implemented into the Touring bikes. I think it would benefit the Touring bikes.
Counterbalanced....NOT me....I love the shake....
The EVO softails were just different. I like those softails better anyways....short trips though.
The old FXR and the Touringbikes have the same rubber mounted system. The same system from 1980. It is more complex, but is extremely smooth and very clear speeds. I love the shake at idle....only a dumbass would think it was a Honda. People know you are on a Harley.....
The Dyna has little different shake from the other systems in the way they ride though. This system is a simple design of 1991 and is more like the automotive world. The mounts are tough and rarely wear out like the Touring versions. I would like to see the Dyna rubber mounted system implemented into the Touring bikes. I think it would benefit the Touring bikes.
Counterbalanced....NOT me....I love the shake....