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Old Aug 31, 2016 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Star Commtrey
You say this, but in my truck(Diesel) If I dont use additives I get injectors quirks. My truck runs MUCH better with them.
Oil additives won't do much for injectors, even in HEUI's. fuel additives may or may not help, depending on what you're additizing for, which most folks can't determine anyway....but I digress, that's a diesel fuel system, not a motorcycle chain/clutch case. Apples and oranges.

Pre-emptively additizing any fluid is akin to adding oil without checking the level first. Bad idea, always.

Someone suggested running ATF in the primary and riding a day and draining. That's the best advice I've seen today. ATF is highly detergent and would clean up nicely. It's unlikely there's anything major in the case anyway. There shouldn't be.
 
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Seafoam can be used in engine oil following their directions. If it can be used in the engine, it isn't gonna hurt the primary. Just don't leave it in any longer than necessary. Do the seafoam cycle, change the fluid and it will be fine.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2016 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Qdog002
Why not just drain it, take the cover off and clean it? New gasket, refill.
That is what I am thinking. Also allows you to inspect clutch, chain, tensioners.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2016 | 02:35 PM
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Motor oil is supposed to hold shavings and the like in suspension when at operating temperature. This is part of the reason to warm up the bike prior to draining oil. I wonder if thinning the oil with Seafoam would have more negative effects than the actual oil?

Would it be better to have a sacrificial fill? IE, warm up, drain, fill, add seafoam, drive, drain, fill. That way get rid of old bad mojo both in suspension and built up?
 
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Thanks for all the opinions, choice has been made. Put the recommended measure in the fuel for two tanks done... no issues. Put the recommended measure in the oil ran 200 miles. Oil was fresh and clean from a change two weeks earlier and now after 200 miles its NOT dirty so either SeaFoam does nothing or there was nothing to do (lifters are much quieter though). Dumping the additive from the oil as soon as the REDLINE is delivered and hopefully the lifters remain quiet.

I've lost motivation to add it to the primary even though I trust SeaFoam to do no harm (if used as directed) must stop monking with the inspection camera and one wouldn't care.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2016 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Ridewright Wheels
Oil additives won't do much for injectors, even in HEUI's. fuel additives may or may not help, depending on what you're additizing for, which most folks can't determine anyway....but I digress, that's a diesel fuel system, not a motorcycle chain/clutch case. Apples and oranges.

Pre-emptively additizing any fluid is akin to adding oil without checking the level first. Bad idea, always.

Someone suggested running ATF in the primary and riding a day and draining. That's the best advice I've seen today. ATF is highly detergent and would clean up nicely. It's unlikely there's anything major in the case anyway. There shouldn't be.
Proofs in the pudding. Cleaned up my stiction problem overnight.....
 
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Old Sep 1, 2016 | 01:58 PM
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Oil additive in fuel can help a lot of components especially in diesel applications I know we are talking bikes here but since the drop in Sulphur in the diesel fuel long ago that was a lubricant in the fuel so people have now went to additives such as 2 cycle oil which I personally use tcw3 which burns ashless and some people run filtered used atf this helps lubricant the whole system such as mechanical fuel pumps, found in most diesel engines also any seals in the fuel system around filters I know for sure on the top submerged filters have know to seep from time to time it help keep seals lubed also the mechanical parts inside the injectors, adding oil to diesel fuel has also added 1-2 mpg and some have heard a smidge quieter motor nothing you really could tell tho
 
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Originally Posted by Sootybiscuit
Oil additive in fuel can help a lot of components especially in diesel applications I know we are talking bikes here but since the drop in Sulphur in the diesel fuel long ago that was a lubricant in the fuel so people have now went to additives such as 2 cycle oil which I personally use tcw3 which burns ashless and some people run filtered used atf this helps lubricant the whole system such as mechanical fuel pumps, found in most diesel engines also any seals in the fuel system around filters I know for sure on the top submerged filters have know to seep from time to time it help keep seals lubed also the mechanical parts inside the injectors, adding oil to diesel fuel has also added 1-2 mpg and some have heard a smidge quieter motor nothing you really could tell tho
I am not talking oil diesel in fuel. Im talking a lubrication modifier in oil.
In my trucks fuel I use RP maxtane, in gasoline engines like my bike or 2 stroke boat, I use RP max clean.

But, I use archoil in EVERY engine I got.
 

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Old Sep 1, 2016 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Sootybiscuit
Oil additive in fuel can help a lot of components especially in diesel applications I know we are talking bikes here but since the drop in Sulphur in the diesel fuel long ago that was a lubricant in the fuel so people have now went to additives such as 2 cycle oil which I personally use tcw3 which burns ashless and some people run filtered used atf this helps lubricant the whole system such as mechanical fuel pumps, found in most diesel engines also any seals in the fuel system around filters I know for sure on the top submerged filters have know to seep from time to time it help keep seals lubed also the mechanical parts inside the injectors, adding oil to diesel fuel has also added 1-2 mpg and some have heard a smidge quieter motor nothing you really could tell tho
That's a common belief, but it's incorrect. Sulphur isn't a lubricant in diesel fuel. It's true that ULSD has less lubricity than old higher sulphur diesel, but that's not due to the lower sulphur content directly. The process of removing sulphur makes diesel more hygroscopic. That means it can hold more water in suspension before dropout. Water is abrasive and also lowers cetane (low cetane makes diesels noisier). Fuel additives that are demulsifiers will help, but I wouldn't advocate adding anything you'd pour into a crankcase, transmission or dirt bike to your diesel fuel.

Related reading: http://www.marship.eu/loss-of-lubricity-in-diesel-fuel
 
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Old Sep 1, 2016 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Star Commtrey
Proofs in the pudding. Cleaned up my stiction problem overnight.....
If it's a 6.0, there's a TSB for stiction that involves a reflash. adding ATF can actually get ya in trouble with the Gummint if they check the tank.

There's a ton of info regarding adding ATF to diesel fuel, and the issues it causes.

If it works for you, then I can't argue!
 
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