What's up with finding neutral?
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In your post you said:
"Why the hell did Harley recommend it in the primary of the Evo then? Yup, right in the service manual as an acceptable substitute to their Formula +"
Have I run ATF in a six speed primary drive, nope, there were too many problems with the early compensators for me to be brave enough to use anything but the factory spec`d stuff.
Last edited by Dan89FLSTC; May 1, 2021 at 04:05 PM.
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That is not what you posted, nor is it what I responded to..
In your post you said:
Have I run ATF in an Evo primary? Yeah, it works fine.
Have I run ATF in a six speed primary drive, nope, there were too many problems with the early compensators for me to be brave enough to use anything but the factory spec`d stuff.
In your post you said:
Have I run ATF in an Evo primary? Yeah, it works fine.
Have I run ATF in a six speed primary drive, nope, there were too many problems with the early compensators for me to be brave enough to use anything but the factory spec`d stuff.
And there's no arguing about ATF's ability to protect gears, chains, and yes bearings. Probably much better than any primary fluid. At least just as well. Thicker only gets you so far in the area of protection. ATF = much better splash lube. It's been protecting automatic transmissions for decades. I'm sure it can protect some pos compensator. As well as it can be that is.
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From: Texas Hill Country
You can and will change a lot of things on your Harley.
If you stick with it, at some point you realize that your Harley has changed you.
Not everyone sticks with it though. Some never admit that the Harley has a hard head too. They won't change or adapt. Their Harley will never make it past their thick skull to work magic on their soul.
Keep dumping different stuff in the primary. Keep adjusting until you get tired trying to adjust it into being a Kawasaki.
You can't buy your way in though. Not until you learn to just do it HER way.
Your Harley will change so much between your ears if you just let it.
See, nobody talks to you anymore like that Dutch Uncle used to. Smile, nod, wink and blink. When you keep trying different oil....you are really buying time to learn the Harley way. Some just never do.
I know that straight talk is rare today. Today we just get pissed off when someone cares enough to tell us that we been walking around with our pants unzipped.
If you doubt, look at all the threads that target fogged up speedos, jiffy stands, clunky shifting .
Spending tomorrow's money on yesterday's technology. That was first uttered by the guy that I'm talking about. A guy who thinks with his head and not his heart. A guy who has never let Harley into his heart.
Ok, this is a life changing opportunity here.
Maybe you'll figure it out.
Maybe you'll decide that riding a Harley just ain't for you.
Finding neutral is a watershed moment on the path of enlightenment.
Take it for what it's worth.
Only 2 cents worth of my opinion.
If you stick with it, at some point you realize that your Harley has changed you.
Not everyone sticks with it though. Some never admit that the Harley has a hard head too. They won't change or adapt. Their Harley will never make it past their thick skull to work magic on their soul.
Keep dumping different stuff in the primary. Keep adjusting until you get tired trying to adjust it into being a Kawasaki.
You can't buy your way in though. Not until you learn to just do it HER way.
Your Harley will change so much between your ears if you just let it.
See, nobody talks to you anymore like that Dutch Uncle used to. Smile, nod, wink and blink. When you keep trying different oil....you are really buying time to learn the Harley way. Some just never do.
I know that straight talk is rare today. Today we just get pissed off when someone cares enough to tell us that we been walking around with our pants unzipped.
If you doubt, look at all the threads that target fogged up speedos, jiffy stands, clunky shifting .
Spending tomorrow's money on yesterday's technology. That was first uttered by the guy that I'm talking about. A guy who thinks with his head and not his heart. A guy who has never let Harley into his heart.
Ok, this is a life changing opportunity here.
Maybe you'll figure it out.
Maybe you'll decide that riding a Harley just ain't for you.
Finding neutral is a watershed moment on the path of enlightenment.
Take it for what it's worth.
Only 2 cents worth of my opinion.
Last edited by Ingramite; May 2, 2021 at 10:11 AM.
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Often an over fill primary will cause the issue no madder what lube you use. Even a few extra oz will cause it. On my 2020 it says 28 OZ. bet if you put 30 in it will tend to be harder to hit N and you will feel a lung forward when putting it in gear. Pull that extra couple OZ out work the clutch a few times and it works as it should.
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I’m glad to have found this thread. I’ve been riding different motorcycles for over 40 yrs. Then I bought my 2020 Iron. Took awhile to get the knack of finding neutral. I got it it down now.