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Old Jan 5, 2025 | 08:35 PM
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Does anyone know if a chain conversion 24/52 would be close to stock? Have a 03 roadking st2.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2025 | 07:58 AM
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The 52/24 is 2.166 to 1

Stock belt 70/32 is 2.188.

The 2 ratios are very close.

I prefer 49/23 (2.130) as the chain is always a even number of rollers so the sprockets wear more evenly. Not sure it makes much difference tho.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2025 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
The 52/24 is 2.166 to 1

Stock belt 70/32 is 2.188.

The 2 ratios are very close.

I prefer 49/23 (2.130) as the chain is always a even number of rollers so the sprockets wear more evenly. Not sure it makes much difference tho.
I had to think a while before I understood this (or at least I think I do..)

With even number chain links and odd number sprocket teeth every roller of the chain will visit every groove in the sprocket. But with even number sprocket teeth each roller will be exclusively meeting every second groove. Right?
 
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Originally Posted by SwedishMeatball
I had to think a while before I understood this (or at least I think I do..)

With even number chain links and odd number sprocket teeth every roller of the chain will visit every groove in the sprocket. But with even number sprocket teeth each roller will be exclusively meeting every second groove. Right?
Not completely correct unless say you were using 108 roller chain on a 54 tooth sprocket.. In that case each tooth would only see 2 different rollers.. If it was 106 then each tooth sees 1/2 the total rollers.. On say a 108 chain and a 53 tooth sprocket, each tooth sees all the rollers.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2025 | 01:39 PM
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Go play with the calculator tools on this site, educational and no guessing.

http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/calc_gearratios.htm
 
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Originally Posted by TwiZted Biker
Go play with the calculator tools on this site, educational and no guessing.

http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/calc_gearratios.htm

I wouldn't use that one.. Too many errors.. Someone needs to clean it up. And you have to enter the data manually.

Use this one..

http://www.bigboyzcycles.com/

The gearing section..
 
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Originally Posted by SwedishMeatball
I had to think a while before I understood this (or at least I think I do..)

With even number chain links and odd number sprocket teeth every roller of the chain will visit every groove in the sprocket. But with even number sprocket teeth each roller will be exclusively meeting every second groove. Right?
I never like a 24 tranny gear. If you ever get lazy and your primary chain or your rear chain get a bit stretched it chews the crap outta your inner primary. I always run a 23 tranny and adjust motor and rear from there.

if it’s a 1 to 1 final gear I like running 24 motor, 23t trannys and a 47t rear, sometimes with enough stroker power, I run a 46t rear. This combination allowed me to run 3 gears through the quarter with a 4 speed in my Shovel at 112mph and high 11 second ET’s. Left the 4rth gear like an over drive. Awesome street power like that.
 

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Repeat contact numbers are a matter of the the tooth count on both sprockets AND the chain length. I got it wrong once (before I knew that) when I changed the gearing on a Ducati and got noise, vibration and very rapid wear....all that from dropping one tooth on the countershaft sprocket.
Gearing Commander is a great free site to check out combinations, it will give you gearing, repeat contact numbers, and much more. Odds are that your proposed setup is good but check to make sure just in case.

https://www.gearingcommander.com/

 

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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
Not completely correct unless say you were using 108 roller chain on a 54 tooth sprocket.. In that case each tooth would only see 2 different rollers.. If it was 106 then each tooth sees 1/2 the total rollers.. On say a 108 chain and a 53 tooth sprocket, each tooth sees all the rollers.
This is actually what I meant, but failed to verbalize correctly.
On the other hand a pulley with more teeth would see slightly less wear since each tooth is engaged fewer times for a certain distance travelled by the bike.

I doubt any of this makes a difference in practice
 
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Originally Posted by SwedishMeatball
This is actually what I meant, but failed to verbalize correctly.
On the other hand a pulley with more teeth would see slightly less wear since each tooth is engaged fewer times for a certain distance travelled by the bike.

I doubt any of this makes a difference in practice
Well technically each tooth gets engaged the same number of times no matter what the pulley/sprocket size is with the wheel the same diameter going the same distance. There will be slightly less load on the teeth and belt for a larger sprocket assuming the same load at the rear wheel.
 
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