Recommend tuner
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Recommend tuner
Recently bought a 07 Ultra Classic stock 96. Guy had a big bore kit new in box that came with. Im in Indiana so I got a few months to get that put on before spring. My question is on tuners. The kit has the 255 cams, breather, and the cylinders. What is the latest and greatest tuner out there? Im not the kind of guy who keeps messing with stuf trying to get it better, so after I put the big bore kit on I really doubt I do anything else. That in mind, whats my best option for tuning? Dealer, piggyback tuner, flash tuner? Like to hear from guys with the 103/255 cams on what theyve used. Thanks
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Powervision or TTS Master Tune, with a professional dyno tune from a respected shop with a good track record is your best bet. Dont let the pricing scare you off of making the right call.
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Does the power vision get it close enough to not have to have it dynod? I kinda like the idea of ECM flashing over any thing that stays on the bike. Got a buddy with a power commander on his. He rode to the Dragonstail in NC thru a lot of rain. Started having all kinds of electrical issues.
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IMO the only mistake buying a device and system is to assume it does the tuning.
You have a few choices IMO,
1. Research and use a qualified, experienced tuner that uses the product he finds best serves the need not what you.
2. Purchase a tuning device and install a canned calibration, then assume it’s tuned and running fine.
3. Assume what you have is good enough...especially considering you haven’t ridden a well tuned bike to compare.
4. Purchase a tuning device then spend the time and effort to learn about how EFI works, tuning software, and what does what and how much. Then do street tuning until you feel it’s best it can be...again, without comparison.
Everyone does what they feel is in their best interest...but it helps to be clear as to options.
Bob
You have a few choices IMO,
1. Research and use a qualified, experienced tuner that uses the product he finds best serves the need not what you.
2. Purchase a tuning device and install a canned calibration, then assume it’s tuned and running fine.
3. Assume what you have is good enough...especially considering you haven’t ridden a well tuned bike to compare.
4. Purchase a tuning device then spend the time and effort to learn about how EFI works, tuning software, and what does what and how much. Then do street tuning until you feel it’s best it can be...again, without comparison.
Everyone does what they feel is in their best interest...but it helps to be clear as to options.
Bob
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IMO the only mistake buying a device and system is to assume it does the tuning.
You have a few choices IMO,
1. Research and use a qualified, experienced tuner that uses the product he finds best serves the need not what you.
2. Purchase a tuning device and install a canned calibration, then assume its tuned and running fine.
3. Assume what you have is good enough...especially considering you havent ridden a well tuned bike to compare.
4. Purchase a tuning device then spend the time and effort to learn about how EFI works, tuning software, and what does what and how much. Then do street tuning until you feel its best it can be...again, without comparison.
Everyone does what they feel is in their best interest...but it helps to be clear as to options.
Bob
You have a few choices IMO,
1. Research and use a qualified, experienced tuner that uses the product he finds best serves the need not what you.
2. Purchase a tuning device and install a canned calibration, then assume its tuned and running fine.
3. Assume what you have is good enough...especially considering you havent ridden a well tuned bike to compare.
4. Purchase a tuning device then spend the time and effort to learn about how EFI works, tuning software, and what does what and how much. Then do street tuning until you feel its best it can be...again, without comparison.
Everyone does what they feel is in their best interest...but it helps to be clear as to options.
Bob
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Please reread #4 above. There is a learning curve (software and hardware) to street tuning. You can be successful IF you understand EFi and spend the time to learn.
Some just want the best running bike with the least amount of time and effort to get there. Yet some like to spend hours learning and trial and error to get their bike running better. There s no free lunch with calibrating EFI.
Your call,
Bob
Some just want the best running bike with the least amount of time and effort to get there. Yet some like to spend hours learning and trial and error to get their bike running better. There s no free lunch with calibrating EFI.
Your call,
Bob
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Please reread #4 above. There is a learning curve (software and hardware) to street tuning. You can be successful IF you understand EFi and spend the time to learn.
Some just want the best running bike with the least amount of time and effort to get there. Yet some like to spend hours learning and trial and error to get their bike running better. There s no free lunch with calibrating EFI.
Your call,
Bob
Some just want the best running bike with the least amount of time and effort to get there. Yet some like to spend hours learning and trial and error to get their bike running better. There s no free lunch with calibrating EFI.
Your call,
Bob
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The PV will do what you want. I, personally believe that the TTS is much better at it though. The TTS comes with a complete tuning manual to help understand the process. If you attempt to do it all yourself, eventually you will get it pretty good. IMO, you would be much better off to find a competent dyno tuner to do the job. One day and done with the dyno tuner or many months of fiddling by doing it yourself. I dont believe that a self tune will ever equal one by a competent tuner.
As Bob said, your call.
As Bob said, your call.
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Thanks for the input guys. I will ask around guys I know that have dealt with the local HD shops. Theres 4-5 different shops within an hour of me. I really dont know if they have good tuners there or not. But since I really dont expect to keep swapping parts around I may be best served to let a good shop tune it once I get the cylinders and cams on. I kinda like the idea of learning it tho, teach an old dog new tricks kinda thing😜
Super Race tuner had a canned map for that combination. Pm me if interested. I have an ECM with a mated tuner avail. Otherwise, TTS would be a viable option. I believe Steve had those maps.