Screaming Eagle Tuner
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^^ is your answer. The only time that the SE tuner mandate is in place is on 2017's and later models. An aftermarket tuner would only be discoverable by Corp if they plugged it in. If you are on an extended warranty not the 24 month factory warranty, The ESP isn't going to require that disclosure nor can they get it without going through the MoCo unless they have expanded the dealers ability to do so in the very recent past.
The SE tuner may or may not work with your combo as it is very restrictive on what can be changed and by how much. The other tuners do not have these constraints and will yield a much better performing bike.
The SE tuner may or may not work with your combo as it is very restrictive on what can be changed and by how much. The other tuners do not have these constraints and will yield a much better performing bike.
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So I think I figured out my problem. The screamin eagle tuner will work with Vance and Hines 2 into 2 big radius with stock baffles. But once I put the more open big city thunder there is less back pressure and the screamin eagle tuner can’t handle it. I would have to go with a FP3 or something to run the big city thunder baffles. I will find out today if putting the stock baffles back in fixes the issue. Once I find out I’ll update.
Last edited by Jay Guild; Aug 14, 2020 at 03:47 PM.
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if your bike is out of HD factory warranty, you can run any tuner you'd like. aftermarket extended warranties don't care.
that being said, the Pro Street Tuner,,,(Street being the key word here) is not your est option and neither is an FP3 if you think you are going to do more upgrades in the future. do yourself a favor, do it right and get a TTS or a powervision tune. The TTS is one of the most powerfull device/systems there is, the Powervision has a license program so that you dont need to buy the hardware if doing the actual work is not your deal, tuning takes a lot of knowledge and equipment and practice. for some its best left to a pro, set it and forget it.
m
that being said, the Pro Street Tuner,,,(Street being the key word here) is not your est option and neither is an FP3 if you think you are going to do more upgrades in the future. do yourself a favor, do it right and get a TTS or a powervision tune. The TTS is one of the most powerfull device/systems there is, the Powervision has a license program so that you dont need to buy the hardware if doing the actual work is not your deal, tuning takes a lot of knowledge and equipment and practice. for some its best left to a pro, set it and forget it.
m
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if your bike is out of HD factory warranty, you can run any tuner you'd like. aftermarket extended warranties don't care.
that being said, the Pro Street Tuner,,,(Street being the key word here) is not your est option and neither is an FP3 if you think you are going to do more upgrades in the future. do yourself a favor, do it right and get a TTS or a powervision tune. The TTS is one of the most powerfull device/systems there is, the Powervision has a license program so that you dont need to buy the hardware if doing the actual work is not your deal, tuning takes a lot of knowledge and equipment and practice. for some its best left to a pro, set it and forget it.
m
that being said, the Pro Street Tuner,,,(Street being the key word here) is not your est option and neither is an FP3 if you think you are going to do more upgrades in the future. do yourself a favor, do it right and get a TTS or a powervision tune. The TTS is one of the most powerfull device/systems there is, the Powervision has a license program so that you dont need to buy the hardware if doing the actual work is not your deal, tuning takes a lot of knowledge and equipment and practice. for some its best left to a pro, set it and forget it.
m
The screamin eagle tuner will not work with big city thunder baffles. I had a very good tuner working on this bike. So I am confident in saying that.
Maybe someone will come on here and say it can be done. Would love to hear that.
Like I said, the bike runs and sounds great and Im going to enjoy the hell out of it.
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So which baffles were in when they supposedly tuned it? Aside from that, it's not that the tuner can't handle it, the MAP is not appropriate for your VE and you are getting more reversion due to lower exhaust speed. Depending on which tuner you have will determine how much you can tune it specific to your setup. If it only lets you load canned maps then look for something that is for long drag pipes or the like.
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If you can't find a canned map that the sepst will work for the baffle then yes. You would need a tuner that provides more resolution for tuning. The shop though only did a program and ran one run on the Dyno, if they did a Dyno at all. That tuner can't adjust the maps with enough resolution to be able to rune multiple Dyno runs to adjust the maps for any particular set-up.
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If you can't find a canned map that the sepst will work for the baffle then yes. You would need a tuner that provides more resolution for tuning. The shop though only did a program and ran one run on the Dyno, if they did a Dyno at all. That tuner can't adjust the maps with enough resolution to be able to rune multiple Dyno runs to adjust the maps for any particular set-up.
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IMO a good tuning tool must be easy to understand and use to be successful tuning an engine to its potential of smoothness, throttle response, overall power, as well as good fuel mileage.
As a tuner, based on ease of tool use and end its ending tune quality.
I list below my personal preference.
1) TTS Mastertune (Great 100% functional tool offering a few unique tuning aids and features that makes a difference, backed with excellent, responsive tech support from
2) Screamin Eagle Pro Supertuner (Gets the job adequately but without any tech or product support whatsoever)
3) Power Vision* (Having to deal with the postage stamp size monitor is a PITA, some features dont work as advertised, limited tech support at best from Dynojet) Thanks goes to Jamie for supporting the product 👍
Bob
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If you look at the advertised capabilities of these products (tools) you must conclude they are all more than capable and offer the same features and tuning aids.
IMO a good tuning tool must be easy to understand and use to be successful tuning an engine to its potential of smoothness, throttle response, overall power, as well as good fuel mileage.
As a tuner, based on ease of tool use and end its ending tune quality.
I list below my personal preference.
1) TTS Mastertune (Great 100% functional tool offering a few unique tuning aids and features that makes a difference, backed with excellent, responsive tech support from
2) Screamin Eagle Pro Supertuner (Gets the job adequately but without any tech or product support whatsoever)
3) Power Vision* (Having to deal with the postage stamp size monitor is a PITA, some features dont work as advertised, limited tech support at best from Dynojet) Thanks goes to Jamie for supporting the product 👍
Bob
IMO a good tuning tool must be easy to understand and use to be successful tuning an engine to its potential of smoothness, throttle response, overall power, as well as good fuel mileage.
As a tuner, based on ease of tool use and end its ending tune quality.
I list below my personal preference.
1) TTS Mastertune (Great 100% functional tool offering a few unique tuning aids and features that makes a difference, backed with excellent, responsive tech support from
2) Screamin Eagle Pro Supertuner (Gets the job adequately but without any tech or product support whatsoever)
3) Power Vision* (Having to deal with the postage stamp size monitor is a PITA, some features dont work as advertised, limited tech support at best from Dynojet) Thanks goes to Jamie for supporting the product 👍
Bob