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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 10:05 AM
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Hi. Just installed the V&H Q series Double Barrell, and Arlen ness Big Sucker. Got the TTS and loaded the PZ-176 map. I rode the bike around a little and it seemed to run pretty good and noticably cooler. It seemed as though when I rolled on the throttle it took a little longer to toll back off. Looking through the posts, I think the PZ-176 is for a touring bike.

Last night I loaded the AF-176 withe the engine size corrected to 96.7 cc. It seems like the throttle response is better, but it is running much warmer.

I will begin V-Tunes tonight if I get off work in time, but want to get some consensus on which starting map I should be using. I am hoping I can get the tuning done in 3 or 4 rides and be ready for this weekend. I guess I would like to know how long I should expect this to take....8 hours enough time (over three or four nights)? Not to be perfect, but good enough to take a 300 mile planned ride.....

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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Traceman
<snip> What is the VATS?
Vehicle Anti-theft System = VATS

You can disable the alarm but you will need the 5 digit code, if you know it... try to disable it and start the bike. If you don't know it you can find it by reading your manual.

Don't know if that will solve your issue but it's worth a try.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 04:08 PM
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Anyone have the Part # for the cable I need from The Master Tune to the ECM?
What about the serial to USB adapter. Any particular brand that works or does not work better than others ?
I tune Corvette PCMs and before the interface became USB compatible, we had to use an adapter. Some brands just didn't work at all.
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Vettepro
Anyone have the Part # for the cable I need from The Master Tune to the ECM?
What about the serial to USB adapter. Any particular brand that works or does not work better than others ?
I tune Corvette PCMs and before the interface became USB compatible, we had to use an adapter. Some brands just didn't work at all.
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I had good luck with an old XP based laptop and a cheap serial-to-USB adapter, but it did not work on my current Windows 7 Home Premium OS. So I broke down and ordered the cable from TTS for way too much money. But it works. I think the only way to order it is to call them: 310-669-8101

Steve
 
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 11:05 AM
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Cheers,
I went through the vtune process twice and everything seems correct. After last run I blended last 2 VE cells for each RPM 1750 t0 4500. I am TBW and used Lambda.
2010 FLHX
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Initial MT7: CTA009-01-B2
Bike seems to run fine, no decel popping, decent power for basically stock.

My concern is the apparent difference in the two VE tables for the different cylinders. Is this a normal thing?
 
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by victorsam
Cheers,
I went through the vtune process twice and everything seems correct. After last run I blended last 2 VE cells for each RPM 1750 t0 4500. I am TBW and used Lambda.
2010 FLHX
A/C
V&H SlipOn (still 2:1 factory head pipe)
Initial MT7: CTA009-01-B2
Bike seems to run fine, no decel popping, decent power for basically stock.

My concern is the apparent difference in the two VE tables for the different cylinders. Is this a normal thing?
My two cylinders are very different also, and that is after a professional dyno tune.

After reading and article in American Iron Magazine about dyno tuning, I am wondering if this would be minimized by using a dual AFR sniffer: one for each cylinder. Unfortunatley I don't know any tuner besides the author of the article that uses two.

Steve
 
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by yso191
My two cylinders are very different also, and that is after a professional dyno tune.

After reading and article in American Iron Magazine about dyno tuning, I am wondering if this would be minimized by using a dual AFR sniffer: one for each cylinder. Unfortunatley I don't know any tuner besides the author of the article that uses two.

Steve
The rear cylinder will always be different than the front and show higher VE numbers. That's normal. When you use the VTune software it uses the stock 02 sensors as long as you have set up the TTS map properly for tuning. If you don't know how, send me your email via PM and i'll send you the "VE without a dyno" instructions written by Doc. This will give you step by step instructions how to set up your bike and make ready for the VTune process and what to do to finish your map before flashing the last time.

Steve, it's the same for your bike too since you have an 08. You use both stock sensors.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 12:23 PM
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Unless I am reading the graph and VE tables incorrectly, it appears as though my front cylinder numbers are higher.
I did set the main Lambda values to the .981 trigger value and PE to 10000. After the final "blending" I returned main Lambda to original values and PE back to 4300.

I "blended" to the right which was the 95 and 100 kPA columns using the VE from 80%. Attached is my histagram used for the final blend.
 
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Originally Posted by victorsam
Unless I am reading the graph and VE tables incorrectly, it appears as though my front cylinder numbers are higher.
Those are as close as I've ever seen the two cylinders.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 12:45 PM
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Ok thank you for taking the time to look. Like everyone else I don't want to burn a hole in a piston or anything.
 
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