Doc banned again?
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Joined: Nov 2005
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From: NE Ohio
This crap is getting old. The man is a asset to this forum and they keep giving him the boot. The 1st time was some whining about his willingness to sell TTS to forum members at a discount, some of the sponsors where not happy, guess I won't do business with them or consider it. Doc is just a good guy offering up bunches of knowledge to those who are interested. Some of the sponsors are like spammers that jump on every post trying to hock their wares and then back biting one and other. Have not seen anything even mentioned from Doc about selling anything this time around so I'm kind of puzzled why they wanted to boot him again. One will never know the true story.
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Joined: Feb 2007
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I don't want to get banned myself, but if this is over sponsership I am wondering if providing free expert knowledge and willingness to help members with their problems is not "paying" in it's own right. I found this board a couple of years ago because I was searching for answers to issues I was having and I learned that there are a lot of people who know things, but not many who would be considered experts. EFI for Harleys has been a mystery to many for quite some time and between folks like Shovelhead Bob, Steve Cole and DOC1 it has shed quite a bit of light and accurate information about how these devices work. This area especially is a topic that Harley does not talk about and really there is no avenue to get consistent accurate information from those channels; basically it is as good as the folks working for the dealership are trained and understand.
While I understand there is a desire to make money and to support the forum itself I also understand accurate information and advice it what brings people to a forum such as this.
->>>stepping down from the soapbox now...
While I understand there is a desire to make money and to support the forum itself I also understand accurate information and advice it what brings people to a forum such as this.
->>>stepping down from the soapbox now...
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Joined: Jan 2007
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From: back home in Michigan
Things are different since the changeover. Lots of the old guard are long gone. Normally when someone gets banned unless you were there to see what happened you are likely to never know unless someone passes it on to you. Even then there seems to a fear of saying the wrong thing, so if you want to get hold of this guy you might try doing it offline or on another forum that he might cohabit.
I agree it sucks, and as a result I will limit my help to other users that seek assistance. Even though I am a dyno tuner for a shop that doesn't advertise on this site, I am in the process of buting a dyno for my shop. I don't want to cross the line here so when I get it, I will contact the moderators and see about paying for sponsorship. Untill then, I guess I will really have to watch what advice I give. I will agree that it gets old reading post after post about x product from one of the sponsors. It makes you wonder how many people have mutiple profiles just for the sake of pushing thier product on you. In hdforums defense, it is there site and they can run it how they see fit. Just my $0.02, keep the change.
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Joined: Apr 2008
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From: Houston, TX
So I got an idea.. Seems there are quite a few people on here that really admire and trust Doc.. They also feel he is a wealth of knowledge especially with the TTS system.. On the other side the money issue raises it's ugly head.. So rather than taking FREE info from Doc continually how about we give a little.. Just a small chunk from all the people he has helped.. You know who you are.. You're the guy on here that lives in the TTS thread with one question after another for the man.. You're also the guy that emails him.. Asks him to look at your map and help you make changes so you can gain more power or increase mileage without having to spend $300 with the dyno man.. So why not send Doc a token of your appreciation so he can afford to become a sponsor.. I have no idea what his finances are but I do know he had some serious health issues a few years ago that really put a hurt on him...
Better, we do it on here and give it directly so it doesn't look like anyone is trying to solicite for him..
Hey Admin.. How much a yearly sponsorship?
Better, we do it on here and give it directly so it doesn't look like anyone is trying to solicite for him..
Hey Admin.. How much a yearly sponsorship?
Last edited by Rail; Apr 15, 2009 at 04:41 PM.