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Old Sep 6, 2025 | 09:39 PM
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Are the engine cases different from an early seventies vs a 79? If so, can a 79 be modified to the early models? I'd like to put the 79 in an earlier frame.
 
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Are the engine cases different from an early seventies vs a 79? If so, can a 79 be modified to the early models? I'd like to put the 79 in an earlier frame.
The Change to better oil pump and Mini-sump, as well as the native left shift...came about in 1977... Pre 1977 were different, and it can be done, but the Cases/Frames, do Not readily Interchange pre '77 to post '77..
In '79 Only the frame changed...but will still house '77, '78, engines and vice-vis... for the Duration of the 4-speed.
The Evo Sportster (Pre-91 or Pre 5 speed) will also go into a '79 Frame...and of course Vice-Vis.. I do Have an Ironhead in a 5-speed frame...and Have been told that a 5-speed Evo will go into the '79+ frame...But...Never tried that one!!! I have my Doubts...But!!!
 
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Went out to double check..I am Afraid I would Not want to do the modifications necessary to put a Mini-Sump Engine into a Pre1977 Chassis.. certainly need to loose the crossbar (footpeg mounts) then clearance for the Primary chain adjuster on left rail, Maybe oil pump clearancing on right rail.. after that..I suspect all good...But, you have ruined Collectability of yer Early Chassis!!
 
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Thanks Racepres, I picked up a 79 XLH leaning against a post buried in sand. I saw it and had to save it, she's in rough shape appearance wise but after digging in to it she's surprisingly sound. My first HD was a 70 XLCH which I really have a soft spot for and was thinking that I might try and go in that direction if it's reasonably affordable.
 
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Thanks Racepres, I picked up a 79 XLH leaning against a post buried in sand. I saw it and had to save it, she's in rough shape appearance wise but after digging in to it she's surprisingly sound. My first HD was a 70 XLCH which I really have a soft spot for and was thinking that I might try and go in that direction if it's reasonably affordable.
Nope...But... My 1977 is an XLCH.. from Factory.. and that '79 can Easily get a KickStarter.. Be very careful If you do it.. as most aftermarket (chiwanese) kicker Kits and Parts are Terrible Quality.. If you cannot sourse Take-Off H-D parts..keep the e-start also..
My Recommendation..
 
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The factory kickers weren't something to write home about lol. I wore a full length leg cast from a slip through that hyperextended my right knee, from my 70. I don't think I will throw the E start.
 
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The factory kickers weren't something to write home about lol. I wore a full length leg cast from a slip through that hyperextended my right knee, from my 70. I don't think I will throw the E start.
Don't know how many Times I sat at the Curb crying alligator tears from Hyper-Extended Knee!! Young and Dumb and all that..Finally Learned Not to kick so damn Hard!! A healthy Push is plenty...and, as a Plus, the Harleys seem to Start better that way!! Nothing for chinzy *** Chiwanese Kicker parts tho,, just Crap.. especially the Ratchet Plate behind the clutch hub!!!
I salvage those from original messed up "projects" at swaps etc!! !!!
 
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Would the 79 take the 76 shaft and related kicker parts?
 

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Would the 79 take the 76 shaft and related kicker parts?
I seem to recall...Some! is the answer.. Always keeping in mind that the real difference, is the native right hand Shift vs 1977+ native left hand shift!!
Edit; I seem to recall that I have a 1974 Trans hanging on the door, under the bench...some place!! I will try to stab that into a early 1984 case, one day soon... A cursory examination indicates it should Not be a Problem!!
 

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