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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 10:20 PM
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I have some noise that sounds like the tappets are loose , (some people say that I am **** to the nth degree) so I bought new roller rocker s ,new adjustable pushrods , new rocker arm shafts, did the adjustment just like you guy say and I still have what seems to be noisey tappets is this normal or am I just being to fussy
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 57_kid
I have some noise that sounds like the tappets are loose , (some people say that I am **** to the nth degree) so I bought new roller rocker s ,new adjustable pushrods , new rocker arm shafts, did the adjustment just like you guy say and I still have what seems to be noisey tappets is this normal or am I just being to fussy
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Most likely a case of being fussy.
An ironhead is always going to be anything but quiet.
Normal for a Sporty is going to sound like a threshing machine compared to something like a Gold Wing or some other such Brand X bike.

You have new parts and have done the adjustment correctly so you are good to go. Noise is normal.......... pg
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 01:03 PM
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i've benn wondering .im hearing a rattle when driving at 35-45mph coming from the pushrods got home used a dowel rod and can hear it from the rockers all the way down to the tappets and cam on the front cycl.it seems to be kinda loud as i hear it over the roar of my open drags ,but then goes away at 50mph and above is this something to worry about?its an 82 sporty.i had it apart and ran checks on all of it but cant seem to figue it out can you give me any help
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by popstheoldman
i've benn wondering .im hearing a rattle when driving at 35-45mph coming from the pushrods got home used a dowel rod and can hear it from the rockers all the way down to the tappets and cam on the front cycl.it seems to be kinda loud as i hear it over the roar of my open drags ,but then goes away at 50mph and above is this something to worry about?its an 82 sporty.i had it apart and ran checks on all of it but cant seem to figue it out can you give me any help
Pops.....
The first thing I recommend you do is to check the valve clearance with the engine stone cold.
If you find the pushrods to be adjusted correctly, then everything is fine. If they are too loose or too tight, adjust them following the directions we have given.

A Sportster engine (ironhead) is a normally noisy engine. That is just a fact of it being an ironhead.
But you should check the valve adjustment by all means.
As I said before, it is best to check the adjustment every 3 months if the bike is ridden regulary......... pg
 
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 02:53 PM
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should you be able to twist the push rod when the valve is open
 
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by stoneyone2001
should you be able to twist the push rod when the valve is open
No, the pushrod should not be able to rotate.
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by popstheoldman
hey mick and piniongear i read i think or saw this done at the hd shop they adjusted the pushrods with the adjusters but checked for play and shake at the top of the pushrod.saying this is where you should do it.it does make some sense in a way

Pretty sure this procedure is stated in the Clymer manual. I have both the FSM and a Clymer, I just checked the FSM and it states what PG & Mick said. I'll have to check my Clymer manual when I get home tonight, I know I've seen the procedure that describes setting them with just a slight amount of "shake", meaning the slightest amount of fore and aft movement from the top end of the pushrod.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 01:23 PM
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Myself, I do not 'shake' or adjust so there is a slight 'rattle' to the pushrod.
Adjustment is made so that the pushrod will just rotate a full 360° using one finger to roll the pushrod.
Anything more than this is too loose.

I also would trust nothing printed in a Clymer manual. Period!
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I agree with Pinion Gear on the procedure. Make sure to test it after you tighten the locknut, as it has a tendency to get tighter if not held just right.

Other than that yes, they are noisy bikes. I have the stock '78 2-1 exhaust which is quiet, and my engine sounds like a rockin' sewing machine + intake growl and bark.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2012 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by popstheoldman
hey mick and piniongear i read i think or saw this done at the hd shop they adjusted the pushrods with the adjusters but checked for play and shake at the top of the pushrod.saying this is where you should do it.it does make some sense in a way
Originally Posted by Blackcherry Low
Pretty sure this procedure is stated in the Clymer manual. I have both the FSM and a Clymer, I just checked the FSM and it states what PG & Mick said. I'll have to check my Clymer manual when I get home tonight, I know I've seen the procedure that describes setting them with just a slight amount of "shake", meaning the slightest amount of fore and aft movement from the top end of the pushrod.
I was wrong about it being a Clymer procedure it's right out of the Harley Davidson Sportster owners manual, here is the procedure as written in the owners manual.

"Loosen tappet adjusting screw lock nut and turn adjusting screw downward (into tappet body) until push rod is just free and has noticeable shake. When checking for push rod shake, grasp push rod with finger tips just below cylinder head, and shake toward front and rear of engine."

"Slowly turn adjusting screw upward (toward push rod) until almost all play is removed. At this point lock the tappet screw lock nut against tappet body and recheck for correct tappet adjustment."

"A tappet is correctly readjusted when push rod has just noticeable play or shake, can be turned freely with finger tips, completely around, without any trace of bind".

I knew I had seen it somewhere, but forgot to look in the owners manual til tonight. I actually have mine set this way presently.
 
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