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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 02:50 PM
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Is an ironhead essentially a shovelhead or are they two distinctly difference engines? It appears the ironhead pushrod tubes are vertical as opposed to angled, but the rocker boxes appear very similar.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 03:41 PM
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They are very different engines.
The Sportster is a unit construction crankcase which started being first made as the K Model in 1952.
In 1957 The Sportster was introduced. At that time the bottom end was basically a K Model, as was the top end but with a set of heads having valves in them (aka overhead valve).
The Sportster stayed the same until the end of ironhead production in 1985-86.
Then the so called Evo Sportster replaced the ironhead. Still, there many similar features to the ironhead
remaining .

The Shovelhead was completely different from the Sportster
It was more like the Panhead with a different set of heads.
It has a separate transmission, different cam design etc, etc.......... as do all of the big twins.
The only similarities the two engines have are they are both Harley and they both are V twins.
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by piniongear
They are very different engines ... The only similarities the two engines have are they are both Harley and they both are V twins ...
It is very unfortunate that the Sportster service manual published by the British company Haynes refers to the IronHeads as Shovelheads. It means that they have formalized this grievous error, and that the controversy will go on forever. And we will have to suffer with it.

I have a friend who was president of a motorcycle club back in the 70s. A real old-time biker. He loves these bikes. He had a Sportster back then. Whenever he hears me arrive he comments "I have always loved the sound of a shovel". I just button my lip.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 10:26 PM
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Very simply, Ironheads are Sportster engines and they have cast iron cylinder heads and four camshafts. Shovelheads are big twins and have cast aluminum heads and one camshaft. Although the rocker boxes are similar looking, that is where the similarity ends.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 11:24 PM
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the rocker boxes are even totally different,they look similar from across a room maybe but totally different up close..i saw a sporty with shovel cylinders and heads once..looked kind of cool..also saw a 45" with ironhead cylinders and heads,almost bought it..
 
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 08:53 AM
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I appreciate the education. Another lesson in Harley world.
 
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