LiveWire Great Article
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From: Texas
I saw that, and agree the Pan America would have been the much better choice, but it's still a year away from release, so what were they supposed to do? Either they ask them to wait a year, or they go with what they've got. Maybe there will be a second season next year that the Pan America will be ready for.
Tourer
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From: Harley ville
Has any one looked at the "Zero" 120 hp elec bike. it is 120 hp rear wheel. as fast as you twist... so Harley was a race to join the club. it was crushing the market and just check them out on you tube, Harley is a better product. but we were a few years behind the release. and bringing in the more diverse following for the moco.
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From: Detroit Metro Area
The guy pictured in the article looks old and grey and he thinks he is the 'younger crowd' HD is trying to appeal to? Blahahahha...go look at the BMW crowd if you want to see old. The last open house I attended I was the youngest there (except for some guys kid) at 58 years old. There was one guy with a walker and several with canes. But, I digress.
I find it interesting that these so called 'riders' are not interested in a bike because of the 'lifestyle' they would have to get involved with. *Sigh....total gibberish.
There are so many internal combustion engine (ICE in Eurospeak) motorcycles on the market that an easy comparison can be made between the Livewire and the Zero. First, they are not "under 10k" like the article states. Second, the only Zero dealer in Metro Detroit has dropped the brand. I am not driving 120 miles for a dealer.
Anyway, back to the comparison...if all anyone is interested in is the price of the bike and therefore think the Zero is a competitor of the LW for far less money then the question is why are you not riding a much cheaper ICE bike? Seriously...the Zero is a narrow lighter bike (not really that much lighter it is just much less robust looking) more like a Suzuki DR650 or a Honda NC700x than a Harley cruiser. Just because it is also electric does not mean it is the same class of bike,
With that said, if you want a Zero go look at them. My point is just that they are not the same class of scoot.
By the way, I think the BMW electric scooter, if available in Michigan, would be on my short list as a second bike/commuter. Less cost than a Zero of any flavor with comparable features, more range, luggage to hold my stuff for commuting, actual wind management. and dealers are more plentiful and nearer (still farther away than HD dealers) than Zero dealers. Maybe others will start bringing more like this to market soon.
I find it interesting that these so called 'riders' are not interested in a bike because of the 'lifestyle' they would have to get involved with. *Sigh....total gibberish.
Has any one looked at the "Zero" 120 hp elec bike. it is 120 hp rear wheel. as fast as you twist... so Harley was a race to join the club. it was crushing the market and just check them out on you tube, Harley is a better product. but we were a few years behind the release. and bringing in the more diverse following for the moco.
Anyway, back to the comparison...if all anyone is interested in is the price of the bike and therefore think the Zero is a competitor of the LW for far less money then the question is why are you not riding a much cheaper ICE bike? Seriously...the Zero is a narrow lighter bike (not really that much lighter it is just much less robust looking) more like a Suzuki DR650 or a Honda NC700x than a Harley cruiser. Just because it is also electric does not mean it is the same class of bike,
With that said, if you want a Zero go look at them. My point is just that they are not the same class of scoot.
By the way, I think the BMW electric scooter, if available in Michigan, would be on my short list as a second bike/commuter. Less cost than a Zero of any flavor with comparable features, more range, luggage to hold my stuff for commuting, actual wind management. and dealers are more plentiful and nearer (still farther away than HD dealers) than Zero dealers. Maybe others will start bringing more like this to market soon.
Last edited by dceggert; Dec 11, 2019 at 09:17 AM.
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From: Virginia
Article writer is an idiot. He says that Harley gave them the wrong bike and that they should have done the ride on the Pan Am "Now, imagine the marketing success for the Pan America if Harley could brag that it was the bike that Charley and Ewan rode in Long Way Up."
No imagine the marketing success of doing that ride on a bike that every one says has too short of a range for anything other then short city trips.
Then imagine the marketing success of your electric street fighter motorcycle taking on the toughest roads that KTM was afraid to send their adventure bikes on.
That will be better than the old Timex ads it takes a licking and keeps on ticking.
No imagine the marketing success of doing that ride on a bike that every one says has too short of a range for anything other then short city trips.
Then imagine the marketing success of your electric street fighter motorcycle taking on the toughest roads that KTM was afraid to send their adventure bikes on.
That will be better than the old Timex ads it takes a licking and keeps on ticking.
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