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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 03:53 AM
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Nasty bikes.
 
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The "T2"? I see Matt Laidlaw in that photo. Why are the bikes nasty?
 
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Why are the bikes nasty?
Well the hole in the rear fender designed to make a mess of your jacket is a start.
 
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Robert Patrick the T1000 is there .
I just really like the Livewire ,I'll own one ASAP.
 
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Robert Patrick, Owns the dealership in my town. I sat on the bike he in on, this weekend. It only has 33 miles on it. I would be interested except for the Charge times. Level 1 or Level 2 take 12 hours. That is ridiculous. Only way too get the 1 hour charge is a Level 3 DC. Somehow they need to make Level 2 (220) 3 or 4 hour.
 
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Robert Patrick, Owns the dealership in my town. I sat on the bike he in on, this weekend. It only has 33 miles on it. I would be interested except for the Charge times. Level 1 or Level 2 take 12 hours. That is ridiculous. Only way too get the 1 hour charge is a Level 3 DC. Somehow they need to make Level 2 (220) 3 or 4 hour.
Level 1 overnight go for a spin or ride to work the next day FTFY.
 

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I like the LiveWire a lot, but the lack of Level II charging is offensive. Especially because I am certain that it's a simple software fix and they're just refusing to do it (yet).

The bike was clearly and obviously designed to support Level II charging properly, and it was almost certainly disabled by some sales and marketing policy decision. Which will become all the more obvious when they inevitably introduce a firmware update to unlock Level II charging.
 
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I like the LiveWire a lot, but the lack of Level II charging is offensive. Especially because I am certain that it's a simple software fix and they're just refusing to do it (yet).

The bike was clearly and obviously designed to support Level II charging properly, and it was almost certainly disabled by some sales and marketing policy decision. Which will become all the more obvious when they inevitably introduce a firmware update to unlock Level II charging.
There is no battery cooling on the bike so no level 2 and very little level 3 .
 
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There is no battery cooling on the bike so no level 2 and very little level 3 .
It is not possible to overstate just how stupid such a decision would prove to be. I cannot believe that the engineers who designed such a magnificently engineered package like the LiveWire, would make such a fatal mistake.

This reeks of corporate protectionism. I suspect the dealers demanded a no-fast-charging concession in exchange for acquiescing to Harley's demand that they install expensive charging stations.

That kind of back room dealing and product crippling at the expense of the customer used to be tolerable, but it's not 1972 anymore, it's 2020 and Tesla gives out free over the air updates to unlock Ludicrous mode, and autopilot mode, etc.

And Harley couldn't engineer a $30,000 motorcycle to accommodate the worldwide standard Level II charging infrastructure?

With all due respect, that is impossible to believe.
 
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