oilpump M8
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welkum to the wurld wiid webb. I wunders ef peeples in dis states of amurica riding hondas ask queistions such as dis on japan fourums. I saiz ride dat stage tres beach like you stolt it
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From: Okmulgee
No one here can "give you trust in your bike again".
If its that much of a concern, perhaps you should consider selling it. Nothing worse than owning something you hate and don't find enjoyment in anymore.
As BigRed said, you have a warranty. Ride it. At least through your warranty period, then get rid of it.
If its that much of a concern, perhaps you should consider selling it. Nothing worse than owning something you hate and don't find enjoyment in anymore.
As BigRed said, you have a warranty. Ride it. At least through your warranty period, then get rid of it.
Nothing like taking a horrific bath on a new Harley. There are thousands of those examples all the world.
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Last edited by BigRed117; Feb 2, 2018 at 07:37 PM.
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I have to agree -- the Stage II is a whole lot of fun, and hasn't caused any sumping. I think riding style and RPM range and load are more likely to cause sumping than the Stage of the engine (although, as said before, those with III and IV are probably more likely to be riding higher in the RPM range and harder than the rest of us, just because all the power is up in those higher RPM ranges).
I can certainly see one questioning the value of a Stage III or IV, when compared to something like the FuelMoto or other aftermarket big bore kits. But there's no way to use one of those and retain your warranty, and with the sumping and transfer issues that get discussed here, I decided the warranty was worth retaining and I extended it for another four years on top of that. If my bike does develop sumping anytime in the next six years, I should be covered. Until then, I'm having a blast on a Torque cam Stage II.
I can certainly see one questioning the value of a Stage III or IV, when compared to something like the FuelMoto or other aftermarket big bore kits. But there's no way to use one of those and retain your warranty, and with the sumping and transfer issues that get discussed here, I decided the warranty was worth retaining and I extended it for another four years on top of that. If my bike does develop sumping anytime in the next six years, I should be covered. Until then, I'm having a blast on a Torque cam Stage II.
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I have to agree -- the Stage II is a whole lot of fun, and hasn't caused any sumping. I think riding style and RPM range and load are more likely to cause sumping than the Stage of the engine (although, as said before, those with III and IV are probably more likely to be riding higher in the RPM range and harder than the rest of us, just because all the power is up in those higher RPM ranges).
I can certainly see one questioning the value of a Stage III or IV, when compared to something like the FuelMoto or other aftermarket big bore kits. But there's no way to use one of those and retain your warranty, and with the sumping and transfer issues that get discussed here, I decided the warranty was worth retaining and I extended it for another four years on top of that. If my bike does develop sumping anytime in the next six years, I should be covered. Until then, I'm having a blast on a Torque cam Stage II.
I can certainly see one questioning the value of a Stage III or IV, when compared to something like the FuelMoto or other aftermarket big bore kits. But there's no way to use one of those and retain your warranty, and with the sumping and transfer issues that get discussed here, I decided the warranty was worth retaining and I extended it for another four years on top of that. If my bike does develop sumping anytime in the next six years, I should be covered. Until then, I'm having a blast on a Torque cam Stage II.
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From: Kennesaw, GA
i have a stage three and no problems. If you were to ride it I think you may change your tune on was it worth it or not. You make it sound like all bikes are sumping or if you get a stage three or four your guaranteed to have sumping. Your comments are grossly uninformed. I know its your opinion but it is a very uninformed opinion. If all you read are these sky is falling threads I can see how you may think that but remember this is only a small fraction of the satisfied owners that have not had any problems. I feel for any of my Harley brothers that are having problems but it is a small fraction of the overall group. Remember 90% unhappy owners will speak out but only 10% satisfied owners will speak out. The happy folks are out riding instead of hanging out on a forum. Think I will head on out as well. Good riding!
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