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Old Aug 30, 2021 | 07:27 PM
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I have a 2017 Ultra Limited with a little over 32,000 on it. A few months ago I was on a trip and hit a sink hole very hard. A couple of hundred miles later my front wheel bearing failed. The bike hasn’t felt right since. I went to check the steering head adjustment today. I don’t feel any drag in the steering, the bike is level side to side and for and aft. No clunking either. But when I tap the fender, it doesn’t swing back until well past the fender tip. To me that says it’s to tight, but how could that be? Am I doing something wrong with this test, or could I have bent something when I hit the sink hole? Any input would be very much appreciated.
 
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I have a 2017 Ultra Limited with a little over 32,000 on it. A few months ago I was on a trip and hit a sink hole very hard. A couple of hundred miles later my front wheel bearing failed. The bike hasn’t felt right since. I went to check the steering head adjustment today. I don’t feel any drag in the steering, the bike is level side to side and for and aft. No clunking either. But when I tap the fender, it doesn’t swing back until well past the fender tip. To me that says it’s to tight, but how could that be? Am I doing something wrong with this test, or could I have bent something when I hit the sink hole? Any input would be very much appreciated.
I would suspect wheel damage..did you have it trued or balanced after the wheel bearings were replaced?
 
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Old Aug 30, 2021 | 07:39 PM
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I would suspect wheel damage..did you have it trued or balanced after the wheel bearings were replaced?
I didn’t, but yeah I should check that. Do you have any thoughts on the swing back test? I shouldn’t be having this issue with it. It is a pretty straight forward check.
 
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I didn’t, but yeah I should check that. Do you have any thoughts on the swing back test? I shouldn’t be having this issue with it. It is a pretty straight forward check.
no I don't, sorry..others here hopefully will help you having done this themselves before
 
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Are u getting any low/med speed wobble?

My Limited didnt feel right after i hit a pothole. Ran it at diff speeds, gears, and rpms.

Took it to dealer and they were able to replicate the wobble under same conditions I noticed.

Replaced steering neck bearings instead of an adjustment. Now she runs straight and true.

Only has about 15k miles on the clock.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2021 | 08:34 PM
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Are u getting any low/med speed wobble?

My Limited didnt feel right after i hit a pothole. Ran it at diff speeds, gears, and rpms.

Took it to dealer and they were able to replicate the wobble under same conditions I noticed.

Replaced steering neck bearings instead of an adjustment. Now she runs straight and true.

Only has about 15k miles on the clock.
Not like what most people would describe. But if I’m going slow and I’m turning into say a gas station that has a little bit of a high curb the front does wobble. But when I’m cornering, the bike doesn’t feel like it’s tracking right, if that makes any sense. It feels like the problem is in the front tire.
 
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I had that as well...slow speed in parking lot felt "wiggly" when turning....i thot i might have slight cupping on the front tire but didnt really think so as it looked and felt fine when I ran my hand over the tire ...but to.make sure I wanted to rule out the neck bearings first since it was still under warranty.

Service Mgr took it for a spin and said it was neck bearings. He mentioned hes seen more of if from 17s and up. Hes done the neck adjustments and its reduced but not eliminated...so he goes right to replacement of the bearings which solves the problem....as was the case with mine.

I had noticed it during an 8k trip a few weeks ago. At first I thot it was an an unbalanced load...so I emptied the bike at one of my hotel stops and ruled that out as well.
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Got the bearings done last week and so far so good.
 

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I had that as well...slow speed in parking lot felt "wiggly" when turning....i thot i might have slight cupping on the front tire but didnt really think so as it looked and felt fine when I ran my hand over the tire ...but to.make sure I wanted to rule out the neck bearings first since it was still under warranty.

Service Mgr took it for a spin and said it was neck bearings. He mentioned hes seen more of if from 17s and up. Hes done the neck adjustments and its reduced but not eliminated...so he goes right to replacement of the bearings which solves the problem....as was the case with mine.

I had noticed it during an 8k trip a few weeks ago. At first I thot it was an an unbalanced load...so I emptied the bike at one of my hotel stops and ruled that out as well.
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Got the bearings done last week and so far so good.
I’m starting to lean towards replacing them. I still would like to know if I’m doing something wrong on the check or if it is showing a problem.
 
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I’m starting to lean towards replacing them. I still would like to know if I’m doing something wrong on the check or if it is showing a problem.

since you had an "event", just replace them to rule out that variable.

However, I'd be curious to know how many "off the showroom floor" HD's pass the swing back test when new. My bet is that is not done on the assembly line and many would not pass to begin with
 
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Based on my experience, if you have a low speed wobble in parking lot, steering head bearings are loose. We’re the bearings greased and adjusted at 25,000 miles?
 

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