Copper in oil
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From: NC USA
Cam bushing, pinion bushing, rocker arm bushings, wrist pin bushings, flywheel (rod) thrust washers are bronze. Only time I've had enough to show up visibly was when a thrust washer came loose from the flywheel and was being slowly eaten by the rod.
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From: underground
there no bronze cam bushing,rocker arm bushings, that much copper in the oil is a slipped crank eating the rod side bushings and the pinion bushing in the cam plate. pull the cam cover,you"ll see whats left of the pinion bushing in the cam plate. your oil light will be on soon .
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From: Illinois
If they do get into motor with copper at that level something will be found and you shouldn't have to pay squat.
When a roller bearing is near failure copper levels will rise. I don't think this level of copper is coming from a roller bearing failure but I am not an expert.
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Tourer
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I will go to the dealer next week and talk to them.
Warranty should cover this.
Is it possible to take the primary cover off and check crank run-out?
I would think the shaft would wobble if crank was twisted.
Warranty should cover this.
Is it possible to take the primary cover off and check crank run-out?
I would think the shaft would wobble if crank was twisted.
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From: Woodstock, Ont , Can
Blackstone did the sample.
The bike is all stock except, SE slip on mufflers and Nightrider Xied.
No oil cooler or any other add-ons.
I think the UOA is good because I can see copper color in the oil from the filter.
I talked to a mechanic at a HD dealer and he thought it might be a twisted crank eating the end play washers.
I think he wants to tear my motor apart and make me pay for it.
Are the outer cam bearings bronze?
The bike is all stock except, SE slip on mufflers and Nightrider Xied.
No oil cooler or any other add-ons.
I think the UOA is good because I can see copper color in the oil from the filter.
I talked to a mechanic at a HD dealer and he thought it might be a twisted crank eating the end play washers.
I think he wants to tear my motor apart and make me pay for it.
Are the outer cam bearings bronze?
Ron
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From: underground
if your seeing copper when you change oil its time to let somebody check crank runout. by the time my oil light came on my pump,cam plate,main bearings,and oil pump was destroyed, caused by the p.o.s. chinese crank. had one trued and welded by revperformance and ended that problem.
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From: NC USA
there no bronze cam bushing,rocker arm bushings, that much copper in the oil is a slipped crank eating the rod side bushings and the pinion bushing in the cam plate. pull the cam cover,you"ll see whats left of the pinion bushing in the cam plate. your oil light will be on soon .
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From: Ohio
Went to dealer today.
They wont touch it unless something breaks or oil pressure drops.
They said I could call HD customer service but HD wont do anything if all it is is copper in the oil.
Im gonna put a pressure gage on it and ride it.
They wont touch it unless something breaks or oil pressure drops.
They said I could call HD customer service but HD wont do anything if all it is is copper in the oil.
Im gonna put a pressure gage on it and ride it.
