Quicksilver 20w50
Road Master
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From: Johnson City, TN
No need for synthetic oil? Did you honestly just say that?
It is a proven fact that synthetic oil runs cooler than dino oil. Your HD engine is air cooled, hence the need for synthetic.
Do you have to run synthetic? No, of course not. If you live in Alaska, no need. I would think someone that lives where you do would see the benefits of synthetic.
Valvoline VR1, I was using that when it first came out, in a 10 second Camaro. I think it is fantastic oil, they also make a synthetic version. Used it again in my 7 second Nova. So yes, it is a great oil.
Comparing Valvoline to Wal-Mart oil though, not even in the same ballpark. I used to hear people say that Wal-Mart oil was Valvoline re-branded. Could have been, but I won't take that chance.
It is a proven fact that synthetic oil runs cooler than dino oil. Your HD engine is air cooled, hence the need for synthetic.
Do you have to run synthetic? No, of course not. If you live in Alaska, no need. I would think someone that lives where you do would see the benefits of synthetic.
Valvoline VR1, I was using that when it first came out, in a 10 second Camaro. I think it is fantastic oil, they also make a synthetic version. Used it again in my 7 second Nova. So yes, it is a great oil.
Comparing Valvoline to Wal-Mart oil though, not even in the same ballpark. I used to hear people say that Wal-Mart oil was Valvoline re-branded. Could have been, but I won't take that chance.
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From: SoCal
No need for synthetic oil? Did you honestly just say that?
It is a proven fact that synthetic oil runs cooler than dino oil. Your HD engine is air cooled, hence the need for synthetic.
Do you have to run synthetic? No, of course not. If you live in Alaska, no need. I would think someone that lives where you do would see the benefits of synthetic.
Valvoline VR1, I was using that when it first came out, in a 10 second Camaro. I think it is fantastic oil, they also make a synthetic version. Used it again in my 7 second Nova. So yes, it is a great oil.
Comparing Valvoline to Wal-Mart oil though, not even in the same ballpark. I used to hear people say that Wal-Mart oil was Valvoline re-branded. Could have been, but I won't take that chance.
It is a proven fact that synthetic oil runs cooler than dino oil. Your HD engine is air cooled, hence the need for synthetic.
Do you have to run synthetic? No, of course not. If you live in Alaska, no need. I would think someone that lives where you do would see the benefits of synthetic.
Valvoline VR1, I was using that when it first came out, in a 10 second Camaro. I think it is fantastic oil, they also make a synthetic version. Used it again in my 7 second Nova. So yes, it is a great oil.
Comparing Valvoline to Wal-Mart oil though, not even in the same ballpark. I used to hear people say that Wal-Mart oil was Valvoline re-branded. Could have been, but I won't take that chance.
Road Master
Joined: Feb 2008
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From: Johnson City, TN
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...Number=2755273
Check out that thread and really that whole board.
Who said anything about Amsoil advertising? I don't like all that either, but the fact remains, people have done numerous oil samples of Amsoil and it performs better than anything I have seen.
If you have it dead set in your mind that you don't believe that synthetic runs any cooler, then there is nothing anyone can do to change that.
However, if you are an open minded, educated individual, then get you a digital thermometer dipstick. Run up the road 30-45 minutes on a hot day and see what it reads. Then, come back and change your oil to Mobil1 Vtwin or Amsoil 20w50 MCF and see what it reads. I guarantee you it will be at least 20 degrees cooler.
Check out that thread and really that whole board.
Who said anything about Amsoil advertising? I don't like all that either, but the fact remains, people have done numerous oil samples of Amsoil and it performs better than anything I have seen.
If you have it dead set in your mind that you don't believe that synthetic runs any cooler, then there is nothing anyone can do to change that.
However, if you are an open minded, educated individual, then get you a digital thermometer dipstick. Run up the road 30-45 minutes on a hot day and see what it reads. Then, come back and change your oil to Mobil1 Vtwin or Amsoil 20w50 MCF and see what it reads. I guarantee you it will be at least 20 degrees cooler.
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From: SoCal
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...Number=2755273
Check out that thread and really that whole board.
Who said anything about Amsoil advertising? I don't like all that either, but the fact remains, people have done numerous oil samples of Amsoil and it performs better than anything I have seen.
If you have it dead set in your mind that you don't believe that synthetic runs any cooler, then there is nothing anyone can do to change that.
However, if you are an open minded, educated individual, then get you a digital thermometer dipstick. Run up the road 30-45 minutes on a hot day and see what it reads. Then, come back and change your oil to Mobil1 Vtwin or Amsoil 20w50 MCF and see what it reads. I guarantee you it will be at least 20 degrees cooler.
Check out that thread and really that whole board.
Who said anything about Amsoil advertising? I don't like all that either, but the fact remains, people have done numerous oil samples of Amsoil and it performs better than anything I have seen.
If you have it dead set in your mind that you don't believe that synthetic runs any cooler, then there is nothing anyone can do to change that.
However, if you are an open minded, educated individual, then get you a digital thermometer dipstick. Run up the road 30-45 minutes on a hot day and see what it reads. Then, come back and change your oil to Mobil1 Vtwin or Amsoil 20w50 MCF and see what it reads. I guarantee you it will be at least 20 degrees cooler.
Tourer
Joined: Apr 2014
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From: Bradenton,Florida
I normally don't like to get caught up in "disputes" between 2 members but I would like to add an un-biased, don't care what kind of oil you run opinion. In a "air cooled" engine like my '05 Ultra the synthetic oil would run 20-30 degrees cooler. I installed an oil temp gage (where the stock, fairing mounted air temp gage sat) and noticed this on a long trip after switching to synthetic. I never believed the hype before that but I now run only synthetic.
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Joined: Feb 2008
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From: Johnson City, TN
Yea I think your infrared will be good, but only if it is taken at the same amount of time.
So, motor has been on and moving for 30 min or whatever, weather (temp) should be relatively the same, etc. However, at any rate, it will be cooler.
Also, what type of synthetic do you plan on using? Some say synthetic, but they are not. HD syn3 is not full synthetic.
So, motor has been on and moving for 30 min or whatever, weather (temp) should be relatively the same, etc. However, at any rate, it will be cooler.
Also, what type of synthetic do you plan on using? Some say synthetic, but they are not. HD syn3 is not full synthetic.
Road Master
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 819
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From: Johnson City, TN
Yea I think your infrared will be good, but only if it is taken at the same amount of time.
So, motor has been on and moving for 30 min or whatever, weather (temp) should be relatively the same, etc. However, at any rate, it will be cooler.
Also, what type of synthetic do you plan on using? Some say synthetic, but they are not. HD syn3 is not full synthetic.
So, motor has been on and moving for 30 min or whatever, weather (temp) should be relatively the same, etc. However, at any rate, it will be cooler.
Also, what type of synthetic do you plan on using? Some say synthetic, but they are not. HD syn3 is not full synthetic.
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From: SoCal
Mobil 1, Redline or Amsoil. Just depends on availability. The IR I keep in my saddlebags. I pretty much know what my stabilized temp is. I shoot the side of the pan near the sensor for my oil temp gauge. But I will take it again before changing the oil to make sure nothing has changed and for repeatability.
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Road Master
Joined: Feb 2008
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From: Johnson City, TN
Sounds good, any of those should do just fine. Also, if you like Valvoline VR1, they have that in synthetic too.
I am using Lucas full synthetic motorcycle and it was great when I put it in. Still seems good, but it might go back to Amsoil or Mobil1 because of the lack of testing on the Lucas.
I haven't seen any OA's on it yet.
At any rate, I am impressed by your willingness to try it out. Give it a fair go a and then maybe we can have a beer sometime
I am using Lucas full synthetic motorcycle and it was great when I put it in. Still seems good, but it might go back to Amsoil or Mobil1 because of the lack of testing on the Lucas.
I haven't seen any OA's on it yet.
At any rate, I am impressed by your willingness to try it out. Give it a fair go a and then maybe we can have a beer sometime
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Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 38
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From: Southern New Jersey
qtrracer,
I have seen you make a few comments about "oil is oil". I will never understand why someone spends the amount of money that a Harley costs, only to dump garbage in the engine.
If you have to buy Wal-Mart oil, or any other oil that you pick up at the local Big Lots, then you don't need a Harley.
Chances are, if you have never heard of the oil, there is probably a reason.
I have seen you make a few comments about "oil is oil". I will never understand why someone spends the amount of money that a Harley costs, only to dump garbage in the engine.
If you have to buy Wal-Mart oil, or any other oil that you pick up at the local Big Lots, then you don't need a Harley.
Chances are, if you have never heard of the oil, there is probably a reason.