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Road Trip Info
I am and have been planning a trip to Mexico in April of this year and would appreciate any info you all might have on any portion of it.
San Antonio will be our 'jump off' point and heading west via rte. 90 to rte. 385 to Big Bend N.P. and rte 170 to Presidio. We will cross in to Mexico and ride MX 16 to MX 23 to Creel where we will store the bikes and rent a 4-wheel drive vehicle to go to Batopilas in the bottom of the Copper Canyon. We will retrieve the bikes and head north on MX 23 to MX 16 to MX 12 to Ciudad Obregon and south on MX 15 to Mazatlan. Next we will head over MX 40 and the famous(so they tell me) El Espinazo del Diablo
to Durango, Gomez Palacio to MX 30 to MX 57 to Eagle Pass and San Antonio.
Any tips on lodging, restaurants, road conditions etc. will be appreciated. Thanks.
San Antonio will be our 'jump off' point and heading west via rte. 90 to rte. 385 to Big Bend N.P. and rte 170 to Presidio. We will cross in to Mexico and ride MX 16 to MX 23 to Creel where we will store the bikes and rent a 4-wheel drive vehicle to go to Batopilas in the bottom of the Copper Canyon. We will retrieve the bikes and head north on MX 23 to MX 16 to MX 12 to Ciudad Obregon and south on MX 15 to Mazatlan. Next we will head over MX 40 and the famous(so they tell me) El Espinazo del Diablo
to Durango, Gomez Palacio to MX 30 to MX 57 to Eagle Pass and San Antonio.Any tips on lodging, restaurants, road conditions etc. will be appreciated. Thanks.
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I hear the sound of crickets, Amigo ... 
I'm not super familiar with some of those routes, just what I have heard.
Presidio is a popular crossing for folks that want to avoid el Paso. And Creel is a popular destination for folks wanting to see the Copper Canyon, so you are on the right path. I parked the bike in el Fuerte and rode the train into the CC (coming from the west; you will be entering the CC from the east) back in 1998 and it was spectacular, to say the least.
I've done that ride between C. Obregon and Mazatlan. You may be aware that the are parallel Libre (free) and Cuoto (toll - I think that I spelled that right) roads between those cities. The old US Rand McNally atlases didn't have the toll roads on them, and neither did the database in my Garmin GPS. Trust me, the toll roads are expensive but VERY relaxed riding.
I don't have a map in front of me, but if you get close to the sailing town of San Carlos (and that's up there near Hermosilla as I recall) you might consider dropping by. The place has a big ex-pat and wintering retiree population. Google Mark Mulligan and see if he's in town; he's a musician that is big with the Jimmy Buffett crowd and he lives in San Carlos.
Mazatlan is beautiful, by the way. There are a large group of US ex-pats living there, and one guy that is a somewhat legendary round-the-world motorcycle traveler and published author has settled in Mazatlan. Great place.
That road between Durango and Mazatlan, a/k/a the Devil's Backbone, has supposedly been dramatically improved with the addition of a new road. Instead of being a narrow two-lane, now it's a (widely) divided 4-lane.
If your plans change and you find yourself coming through the Reynosa area then drop me a line!
Have a good trip.
I'm not super familiar with some of those routes, just what I have heard.
Presidio is a popular crossing for folks that want to avoid el Paso. And Creel is a popular destination for folks wanting to see the Copper Canyon, so you are on the right path. I parked the bike in el Fuerte and rode the train into the CC (coming from the west; you will be entering the CC from the east) back in 1998 and it was spectacular, to say the least.
I've done that ride between C. Obregon and Mazatlan. You may be aware that the are parallel Libre (free) and Cuoto (toll - I think that I spelled that right) roads between those cities. The old US Rand McNally atlases didn't have the toll roads on them, and neither did the database in my Garmin GPS. Trust me, the toll roads are expensive but VERY relaxed riding.
I don't have a map in front of me, but if you get close to the sailing town of San Carlos (and that's up there near Hermosilla as I recall) you might consider dropping by. The place has a big ex-pat and wintering retiree population. Google Mark Mulligan and see if he's in town; he's a musician that is big with the Jimmy Buffett crowd and he lives in San Carlos.
Mazatlan is beautiful, by the way. There are a large group of US ex-pats living there, and one guy that is a somewhat legendary round-the-world motorcycle traveler and published author has settled in Mazatlan. Great place.
That road between Durango and Mazatlan, a/k/a the Devil's Backbone, has supposedly been dramatically improved with the addition of a new road. Instead of being a narrow two-lane, now it's a (widely) divided 4-lane.
If your plans change and you find yourself coming through the Reynosa area then drop me a line!
Have a good trip.
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I keep telling myself that if we ever make it to the western states that we will make a stop in Angel Fire , NM to visit the first monument erected to the Viet Nam vets. From what I have been told and what I have read, it is truely a moving experience. Life is a rehearsal for better things to come.
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Thanks for the info John.
A four lane from Mazatlan to Durango! Ya mean I don't have to worry about being squashed like a bug by a semi in the oncoming lane on one of El Espinazo del Diablo's curves?
I was kind of looking forward to terrifying myself.
A four lane from Mazatlan to Durango! Ya mean I don't have to worry about being squashed like a bug by a semi in the oncoming lane on one of El Espinazo del Diablo's curves?
I was kind of looking forward to terrifying myself.
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I can't help you from the Texas border to Creel, but I've rode the rest of your trip to Durango. From Creel to cd. Obregon (where I live) is about 350 miles and a good 10 hours if you only stop for gas. Its a great ride through the mountains, but a lot of curves and twisties. Leave Creel early in the morning because these rodes aren't much fun at night. Also keep an eye on your gas gauge, gas stations are spread out pretty thin.
From cd Obregon to Mazatlan is about 400 miles. It's a four lane highway and will cost around $45.00 in tolls. Mostly flat, it's an easy ride.
From Mazatlan to Durango is about 180 miles. 100 miles is the Espinazo del Diablo. It took us about 5 hours, but we stopped an hour for lunch.
If you need any other info let me know.
Tom
From cd Obregon to Mazatlan is about 400 miles. It's a four lane highway and will cost around $45.00 in tolls. Mostly flat, it's an easy ride.
From Mazatlan to Durango is about 180 miles. 100 miles is the Espinazo del Diablo. It took us about 5 hours, but we stopped an hour for lunch.
If you need any other info let me know.
Tom
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I can't help you from the Texas border to Creel, but I've rode the rest of your trip to Durango. From Creel to cd. Obregon (where I live) is about 350 miles and a good 10 hours if you only stop for gas. Its a great ride through the mountains, but a lot of curves and twisties. Leave Creel early in the morning because these rodes aren't much fun at night. Also keep an eye on your gas gauge, gas stations are spread out pretty thin.
From cd Obregon to Mazatlan is about 400 miles. It's a four lane highway and will cost around $45.00 in tolls. Mostly flat, it's an easy ride.
From Mazatlan to Durango is about 180 miles. 100 miles is the Espinazo del Diablo. It took us about 5 hours, but we stopped an hour for lunch.
If you need any other info let me know.
Tom
From cd Obregon to Mazatlan is about 400 miles. It's a four lane highway and will cost around $45.00 in tolls. Mostly flat, it's an easy ride.
From Mazatlan to Durango is about 180 miles. 100 miles is the Espinazo del Diablo. It took us about 5 hours, but we stopped an hour for lunch.
If you need any other info let me know.
Tom
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