Should feel screwed. They paid top dollar for same old same old with some sold as a limited addition Honda style paint job..

Only to have HD release a 120th CVO with new style engine and like some more goodies. .
Maybe nothing is for sure as of now. We will know more in June.
Park it in the garage. In 15 years it will bring top dollar as last of the M8 CVO RGL

 

It won't be a mid-year release.

 

Harley does mid-year releases routinely. They have also had different power trains within the same year. For example, they built shovels and Evos the first year the Evo was released. They built Evos and Twin Cams rhe first year of the Twin Cmas. They built Twin Cams ans M8s the first year the M8 was released. They have always built larger (different) engines in the CVOs with different cams, heads, cranks, compensators, jugs, etc. all in the same years as building different/smaller engines in other models. When they released the 6 speed in 2006, it was released only on the Dyna line and they built 5 speeds for the rest. If you havent seen Harley release and build different power trains in the same year then you haven’t been following Harley. They almost always slow roll new engines and transmissions across the product line.

Aside from power trains, CVO has been a big part of the product/tooling development pipeline. Even model changes can be traced to CVO in some cases. For example, the Streetglide finds its roots in the CVO Electraglides of 2004 and 2005. They then released the Streetglide in 2006. The Roadking Special finds its roots in the CVO Road King of 2014 and 2015. There are many other examples. The current front fender on the touring line was introduced on the CVOs first. The 180 rear tire was released on the 2008 CVO Road King before it was on the 2009 model year frame. Many accessories, wheels, parts are released on CVOs first and then made available in the P&A catalogue. The Breakout was a CVO model before it was a regular model. On and on, the CVO lineup is used for product line changes of the future.

So, as you can see, it would be normal for Harley to roll out a new engine the same year as building other power trains amd it is normal for them to use the CVO program for the upcoming product pipeline.

 

I would not be so sure. In the history of the CVO program, I don’t ever recall them delaying the introduction of a CVO at the model year release to the public. They have delayed producing them but they were shown at the model year release. This year is different and makes me suspicious even though noone has been able to dig up EPA/CARB info. The same could be said for 2024….we see no EPA/CARB info. If Harley has done the testing themselves, who is to say they cannot get through the government verification and approval process in time for a 2023 release? This accomplishes at least 2 things….lets all the anniversary CVOs be pretty much sold (at a premium) and also builds product interest and foot traffic at the dealers for the summer.

 

CARB info is delayed at the request of the MOCO- all the 2023 certs were signed off NLT 12 Dec 2022, yet didn't appear on the website until the day of the release (Jan 18 2023).
There will be at least two more CVOs for the 120th anniversary.

 

I was talking about cvo's in the same model year. I've owned 2004, 2007, 2010, 2013, 2017 and 2021 cvo's.

 

Even with your overly narrow definition, you are still off. They built CVOs of Vrods and Big Twins in the same model year and I believe they built Twin Cam 95s and 103s in the same model year CVOs. So even with the CVO program they have built different powertrains.

I guess you can narrow it down further and you might get it correct. It would be safe to say they haven’t built 2 CVO touring bikes in the same year with different engines. But you made no such qualifiers in your original post. How could we have possibly known what you intended to say…

 

No need to stress, just a simple comment from someone who's owned 8 or 9 cvo's.

 

No stress…lol. Just bored and have cabin fever. Weather has been sketchy and waiting for Spring to arrive….the Motor Company news helps keep the riding interests up…along with King of the Bagger, Supercross and MotoGP (opening race was this past weekend). Anyway, apologies if I came across as grouchy or rude. Just trying to speculate on Harley’s next motor release…lol.

 

no worries my friend. If all the rumors turn out to be true, it just won’t be a new power train. The new fairing supposedly will have a digital dash maybe without the traditional gauges. Well know in about 2 months.