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Old Nov 25, 2021 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Damian Poulter
I just imported a genny shovel chopper to Australia! Frame is 1970 FL, engine unknown as it was rebuilt in 96 and they used Delkron bottom end so no numbers! I am in need of a new rear juice drum, mine has an 8” diameter where the shoes go, I’m aware that I have two options for my star hub wheel 58-62 or 63-66, however I’m unsure which one has the 8”!!
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Damian that’s a nice bike but I have a question about the frame. What’s going on with the R-H rear downtube?


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Here’s what I’d expect a 70 H-D frame to look like in that area, with the downtube meeting a forging at the bottom.



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What does the frame VIN start with? 1A? 2A? And what do the VIN characters look like? Can you post a partial photo please. Thanks.

Delkron bottom end? Do you mean Delkron cases? But no numbers?

Regarding the rear brake drum, it may also help to determine the year of the swingarm. If the swingarm is H-D it may have forging ID outside both axle clips. Photos?

As for the front wheel, here’s an AM disc flange I bought here in Perth a long time ago but I can’t remember the name of the manufacturer. Maybe Rivera? It bolted to my star hub.
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Old Dec 1, 2021 | 08:34 PM
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really some nice pan-shovel heads on display the value really has increased want one bad
 
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Old Dec 2, 2021 | 02:46 PM
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pans and shovels use the same bottom end. right. ?. so why is there such a thing called a pan-shovel ?
 
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Old Dec 2, 2021 | 06:07 PM
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That's an excellent question.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2021 | 06:26 PM
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A Pan Shovel would need a Pan Head bottom end from 1948 to 1965. Pan Shovels are Pan Heads converted to Shovelheads. Shovelheads built with 1966-1969 (or 1970?) bottom ends are properly referred to as generator Shovelheads.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2021 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by sbrmike
A Pan Shovel would need a Pan Head bottom end from 1948 to 1965. Pan Shovels are Pan Heads converted to Shovelheads. Shovelheads built with 1966-1969 (or 1970?) bottom ends are properly referred to as generator Shovelheads.
Yup... 1970 was 1st year cone bottom Shovel...
BTW the next year, 1971, was 1st year the Ironhead lost the Timer... went to a "cone" type set-up...
 
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Old Dec 3, 2021 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by sbrmike
A Pan Shovel would need a Pan Head bottom end from 1948 to 1965. Pan Shovels are Pan Heads converted to Shovelheads. Shovelheads built with 1966-1969 (or 1970?) bottom ends are properly referred to as generator Shovelheads.
wouldnt a panhead be more desirable than a pan-shovel ? why do some convert them ? thanks
 
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Old Dec 3, 2021 | 02:56 PM
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I believe Pans started getting Shovel top ends for the performance upgrade gained from the heads,
& I reckon shovels started getting Pan top ends as Pan's got harder to find,
& then there were those who just wanted to do it couse they could..
I've seen cone shovel bottom end with a Pan top end & a Knuckle Top end, one on rear & one on the front,... why ?.... because they could
 
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Old Dec 4, 2021 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by sbrmike
A Pan Shovel would need a Pan Head bottom end from 1948 to 1965. Pan Shovels are Pan Heads converted to Shovelheads. Shovelheads built with 1966-1969 (or 1970?) bottom ends are properly referred to as generator Shovelheads.
i wonder why ive never heard of a knuckle-pan or a knuckle-shovel ?different bottom end ?
 
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Old Dec 4, 2021 | 02:39 PM
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anything can be done if ya want to do it & try hard enough, ****, I even threw this together a few years ago,
a 1943 WLA side valve bottom end with a 57 900cc Sportster top end on it.....




 
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