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Old Dec 21, 2021 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 1981 suprglide
naw harley didn't make one in 1984 only the fxe and low rider
No Sorry Bud, they made them again in 1984. I have one. one of 398 in Candy Red, 1437 total. Mine was made March 6, 1984 and shipped Aug 23, 1985. It is not in any brochures as it is a mid year introduction. 1HD1BBK20EY063003
 

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I am not totally computer illiterate, but far from an expert. In my last posting I listed my complete serial number. I don't know how that link appeared???? My number shows BBK2 (FXEF) the "E" which is for 1984, and the 063003 sequence number which is very late. There are many more later than mine as well, but the last "Regular Production" Shovelhead is 061625. It is a challenge owning a mid year introduction last year of production. Lots of parts are that model only, that year only. 1985's are even worse, although they are not Shovelheads for the most part.
 

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For Starters... FXE nor FXEF were not Low Riders... FXS and FXSB were...Yes there Is a difference between a SuperGlide, and a Low Rider...
FX= Kick start only Superglide, FXE= e-start Superglide, FXEF= E-start SuperGlide with Fat Bob Tanks vs the original Superglide tank.. FXS = Kick and Electric, Low Rider. with the Oh So Elegant, 3-gal Bobs..
Yes there were 1984 and 1985 FXEF's... the 1985 being an Evo Motor 4-speed...

BTW the 1984 Model years...are basically Early and Late Production.. denoting mostly what Clutch was Issued...
 
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Originally Posted by Racepres
For Starters... FXE nor FXEF were not Low Riders... FXS and FXSB were...Yes there Is a difference between a SuperGlide, and a Low Rider...
FX= Kick start only Superglide, FXE= e-start Superglide, FXEF= E-start SuperGlide with Fat Bob Tanks vs the original Superglide tank.. FXS = Kick and Electric, Low Rider. with the Oh So Elegant, 3-gal Bobs..
Yes there were 1984 and 1985 FXEF's... the 1985 being an Evo Motor 4-speed...

BTW the 1984 Model years...are basically Early and Late Production.. denoting mostly what Clutch was Issued...
a good summary. what do you mean what clutch was used. i assume 4-5 speed
 
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The 2, actually meaning mid-year introduction after the BBK also indicates a "Wet Clutch" or Diapragm Clutch as used in the first years of Evos. A number 1 indicates the earlier clutch style, 1936-1983; a 3 can also indicate a Dry Clutch, but it's true meaning is "Special", not to mean "Special Order".

This is for 4-Speeds. I don't know anything about 5-Speeds.
 
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Originally Posted by sbrmike
The 2, actually meaning mid-year introduction after the BBK also indicates a "Wet Clutch" or Diapragm Clutch as used in the first years of Evos. A number 1 indicates the earlier clutch style, 1936-1983; a 3 can also indicate a Dry Clutch, but it's true meaning is "Special", not to mean "Special Order".

This is for 4-Speeds. I don't know anything about 5-Speeds.
thanks.so are early evo 4sp trans different to 4sp shovel ? just wondering why they changed to a diapragm in evos
 
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The diaphragm clutch was introduced on "Late" 1984 4-speed Shovels. I will just say it was a technological advance. The clutch basket is pot metal of some type instead of the steel of the earlier clutch baskets. It is definitely easier to actuate and probably cheaper to make.

I never owned an Evo and only ever worked on one, a 1984 Softail at that. That was back in about 1989 and it was clutch related. Any comment on them would be hearsay.

ETA: To be honest it may have been introduced on 1984 Evos and then put into "Late" Shovels as they made Evo Softails in 1984 along with the complete line of Shovels.

ETA again: The 4 Speed Trans on the 1984 Shovels and Evos has the same long nose Mainshaft whether installed on a rear belt model or rear chain model. The Inner Primaries are different on rear belt and rear chains, but the 4 Speed Transmission is the same.
 

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SBRMike gots the tranny thing...

Originally Posted by sbrmike
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This is for 4-Speeds. I don't know anything about 5-Speeds.
the early 5-speeds also had the old Shovelhead clutch... Until 1984.. I cannot say if the "early vs late" stuff applies...as I have never encountered a 1984+ 5-speed with a Shovelhead clutch...

BTW... Of Note... Even the frame is slightly Different on later FXE (F); no forward Peg Mount, on right side!!!
 

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