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Old Mar 2, 2024 | 02:33 PM
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just curious as whats involved in fitting a evo and inner primary in a shovel frame. why do some do it ?
 
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What shovel frame are you talking about?
 

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Only one evo was a 4 speed its a FXWG

5 Speed early shovel FLT has a garbage set up for gearing compared to the later set up

softail inner wont fit a 4 speed
 
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Old Mar 2, 2024 | 11:58 PM
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There are 4 speed Softails in 1984 for sure. I almost bid on one at Mecum last month; it sold for $3425.00!!!! I have seen them, they are in my 1984 FSM. I am fairly certain they were in 1985 and possibly 1986 Softails as well.
 
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Evo motor is taller.
 
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Originally Posted by johnjzjz
Only one evo was a 4 speed its a FXWG

5 Speed early shovel FLT has a garbage set up for gearing compared to the later set up

softail inner wont fit a 4 speed
thanks john what mods to the frame to get it to fit as the evo is taller
 
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They make a short evo engine in yesteryear I don’t know if they still do - they also made a shovel frame that fits a evo

if you mod the frame and I seen it done the visual if off along the top - it ends up looking stupid

shovel. Build correct will last 80 thousand miles seen some go 1000 thousand
 
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S&S made an evo that will fit in a shovel frame they my still make that.
 
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Originally Posted by 1981 suprglide
S&S made an evo that will fit in a shovel frame they my still make that.
Engine itself was the same size, they just used the smaller sportster rocker boxes on them only difference. It's what the Gilroy Indians came with, S&S 88" motors. You can shoe horn the evo in if you flatten the down tube & underside of the backbone a bit just under the seat but you have to pull the motor if ever want to to do anything to it again.
 

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I'm sure someone can post up a pic of the mods they did to fit the Evo in the stock shovel - JZJZ certainly knows the routine - here's a few pics - one is a shovel fram knotched for an evo motor - the others are from my shop - that's an Evo fitted to a shovel hardtail before I cut and weld - the Evo looks trick in the hardtail - it shoe-horns in nice and I will only relieve the seat post tube slightly - unfortunately - the rear rocker has to be pre-assembled to fit the motor like that - so all tweaks to that rear head will require engine removal - that's the price for looking trick.



 
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