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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 06:36 PM
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Any ideas where to start? How do you test the coil? thanks
 
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 09:55 PM
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Take the points cover off, check the condition of the points. Check for proper points gap. Check to see if you have voltage at the hot side of the coil with ignition on. Is your battery charged up?

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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 10:16 PM
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Check the gap on your plugs first. Once I kicked myself silly before I realized that I forgot to properly set the gap on the plugs. Battery OK?
 
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 04:38 AM
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the battery seems to be fine, i have lights, shes a kicker only, so not sure if i can test coil for volts easily. when she died on me we it was as if i turned her off, she kicked over once and ran about 20 seconds then nothing. it doesnt have any spark when i kick her no. i have never had a magneto and not sure where to start.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 06:19 AM
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the battery seems to be fine, i have lights, shes a kicker only, so not sure if i can test coil for volts easily. when she died on me we it was as if i turned her off, she kicked over once and ran about 20 seconds then nothing. it doesnt have any spark when i kick her no. i have never had a magneto and not sure where to start.
First things first. You posted this in the shovehead section, so I am assuming that it is a shovelhead. In the quote above you stated that you have never worked on a magneto.
A 1971 shovelhead has a set of points and condensor,(if it has the stock setup).
Am I correct in assuming that it's a shovelhead we are dealing with?

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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 06:49 AM
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yes shes a shovel and i was told that she would kick over without the battery
 
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 07:13 AM
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yes shes a shovel and i was told that she would kick over without the battery
Okay, if it's a 71 shovel then it came with points, condensor and coil. Someone may have put a magneto on it but it should be obvious.

Two questions. Does it have a two post coil on the left side just behind the rear head?
If so it probably doesn't have a magneto.

Have you had the points cover off of the right side, or is there some big thing sticking out of it?
Take the two screws out of the points cover and if there is a set of points and condensor in there, then it's a points system.

If it still has points it should be a fairly simple fix. If some one has stuck a magneto in there then it could get a bit more tricky. If it is a true magneto, then you are correct in thinking it doesn't need a battery.
If it's a points system, it will be easier to fix but you will need a battery for sure.

I'm not meaning to sound rude, I just need to know exactly what you have, not what someone thinks you have.

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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 09:24 AM
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thanks for hanging in there with me i had a case of the dumb-*** going on. yes she does have the points system and no there is no magneto. I changed out the points (.18)and still nothing it does have a 2 post coil, iwill pick up a new battery today and give that a shot. i guess after that the coil????
 
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 10:28 AM
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ORIGINAL: Got shovel? 71

thanks for hanging in there with me i had a case of the dumb-*** going on. yes she does have the points system and no there is no magneto. I changed out the points (.18)and still nothing it does have a 2 post coil, iwill pick up a new battery today and give that a shot. i guess after that the coil????
If you have a test light, then check to see if there is voltage on the top post of the coil with the ignition on. This must have fire with the ignition on.
If no fire to the coil then you need to backtrack to the switch, check for good connections at the battery. There should be a 30 amp circuit breaker at the positive side of the battery, this powers pretty much everything on the bike except for the main lug on the starter.

If all that checks out then see if you actually have voltage on the points. Hook test light to ground and touch the test light to the wire hookup on the points. There should be test light on when the points are open and off when they are closed.
If no voltage at the points and you have voltage on the top terminal of the coil, then disconnect the points wire and check to see if you have voltage on the bottom of the coil. If you have voltage at the bottom of the coil but not at the points hookup wire, then the wire going to the points is open somewhere.
If no volts on bottom of the coil with the points wire disconnected, then the coil is most likely the problem.

If the battery willrun the headlight brightly and blows the horn nice and loud, then it has enough juice to start a kick only bike.

Don't feel dumb about the magneto thing either, you're just learning about the bike.
All is cool.

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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 02:56 PM
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i must thank you for the info. i will start checking what you suggested and get back to you. THANKS
 
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