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In this next picture the green line shows where the bottom of the derby opening is. You have to look down into primary case to see the oil level. The red line is where the oil level should be.
It would be nice if there was a better way to check the level. Some cycles have a tiny window to check engine oil. That would be nice for the primary.
Dunno if there's a difference because of the model but my 2014 Softail manual says 32 oz so I just pour a quart into my Breakout primary and I'm done. These are all 103 engines no ?
HK, if you warm primary oil and drain it on the side stand and install 1 qt (32 oz) and install primary cover, it will operate fine. No need to look at level. Or you can do the other 5+ versions and have a potential issue.. My 05 was an 88/5spd, 07 an 11's were 96/6spd Any non energy saving multi vis dino motor will perform well. I buy my qt of Rotella T for about $4. Changing primary and trans fluid at 3000 miles is overkill. The manuals do vary between models.
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On a 2009 Street Glide - Changing the primary fluid, I measured the primary oil OUT, "60 oz." yes 60. I asked the part guy at HD dealer, he said it's possible to have a leak from the Engine seal to the primary. I did not messure the engine oil out, but remember it did seam low. This kind of makes sense. How can you have so much fluid in the primary case? Anyone else experience this issue?
On a 2009 Street Glide - Changing the primary fluid, I measured the primary oil OUT, "60 oz." yes 60. I asked the part guy at HD dealer, he said it's possible to have a leak from the Engine seal to the primary. I did not messure the engine oil out, but remember it did seam low. This kind of makes sense. How can you have so much fluid in the primary case? Anyone else experience this issue?
You may have answered your own question bro. Do a complete 2 hole oil change, accurately noting amounts put in. Run your bike for between 500 and 1000 mi, (or just check engine oil level looking for significant drop), and drain your oil, (2 holes), measuring what comes out of each hole. If engine oil loss is near as damn equal to primary gain, you've confirmed the issue.
On a 2009 Street Glide - Changing the primary fluid, I measured the primary oil OUT, "60 oz." yes 60. I asked the part guy at HD dealer, he said it's possible to have a leak from the Engine seal to the primary. I did not messure the engine oil out, but remember it did seam low. This kind of makes sense. How can you have so much fluid in the primary case? Anyone else experience this issue?
I have never had that, but it is a well known thing, which can affect Harleys going back decades, also I suspect most other brands of bike with a separate primary. It happens when the crankshaft oil seal between crankcase and primary develops a leak and requires removing the primary to replace the guilty seal.
Serious issue . As others have said change both. Watch it what is missing from the oil will likely show up in Primary.
One of the things I had a few warn me about with my 07. For what ever reason I never had it happen but know someone that did.
How does this level look? It looks a little bit high, maybe 1/8" above the clutch spring. From the other pics, it looks like I have just a little bit too much. But should this cause any problems?
You asked and I will tell you what I have done on my last 4 TC's, 2005 FLHR, 2007 Ultra, 2011 FLSTC and my 2011 FLHR since 2005 and 108,000 miles: I remove my primary cover first, then drain it. I am on a jack and bike is level. I install 1 qt (32 oz) of Shell Rotella T Dino oil. Done, I don't check it, I have never replaced a compensator little to no metal on drain and no silver color in oil. It has very little clunk into gear and a firm engagement (no slippage) when starting from a stop. I change it once a year late fall.
Well my genuine FSM for my '13 FLSTC says 32oz wet, 40oz dry. Instructions say fill with specified amount. See table 1-9. Table 1-9 says 32oz wet, 40 oz dry.
To say this has anything to do with compensator issues is absurd.
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