California Registration
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California Registration
Need some advice on what to do. I bought a 2012 FLS Slim from an Ohio auction (CoPart), had it shipped here to California, made all the repairs & improvements, it passed brake & lamp inspection, had it verified at the DMV, and when I went to pay for my registration, they said No Bueno! They told me it was EPA Certified, but not California Compliant. What do I need to do to make it CA Compliant? Take it to the HD Dealership and have them make it CA Compliant (Can They?) or am I screwed?
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I bought the bike as Salvaged with only 6190 miles on it, and found out today that if your vehicle is from out of state with less than 7500 miles on it, you can't register it in CA.
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7,500 is correct. The seller should put 7,500+ miles in the paper work for you. Then register. Depending on what the dmv knows, if the seller will/can rewrite sales documents... maybe you can register aain. Just ride it for 1,500+ miles first to match the new sales paperwork.
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7,500 is correct. The seller should put 7,500+ miles in the paper work for you. Then register. Depending on what the dmv knows, if the seller will/can rewrite sales documents... maybe you can register aain. Just ride it for 1,500+ miles first to match the new sales paperwork.
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I need to figure out something, I love what I have done to the bike, and it would kill me if I had to sell it & start over. I have a roller plate on my lift, I should just set in first gear and let it chug away till I hit 7500. The title does say 6190, so I will have to look into rewriting the paperwork.
I don't think it matters what the seller put on the paperwork. As long as it has 7500 before you register it.
For example, if you bought it and then drove it out of state for awhile and/or drove it to CA.... the paperwork would show you bought it on a certain date with 6190, but the bike would now be several weeks older and have over 7500 at the time of inspection....
The other potential issue is the paperwork shows when you officially brought it into CA. You may already have that date on paper, and that would need to be changed...
It is not against the law for a CA resident to own a non CA certified bike out of state. It is just that a CA resident cannot register a new bike (less than 7500 miles) from out of state, in CA, unless it is CA certified or over 7500 miles.
Currently, the only difference between a 50 states bikes (EPA cert) and a CA certified bike is that the CA cert meets EPA plus it has a charcoal filter for the gas tank vent.
In the past, there were big differences (HP, cam, and others). They even called them 49 state bikes (EPA cert) v 50 state bikes (EPA & CA cert). These registration rules were enacted to keep people from avoiding the CA requirements altogether, by just buying a new bike across a state border and then bring it to CA.
good luck
Last edited by hattitude; May 19, 2015 at 09:48 AM.
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You can keep it. It just needs 7500 miles.
I don't think it matters what the seller put on the paperwork. As long as it has 7500 before you register it.
For example, if you bought it and then drove it out of state for awhile and/or drove it to CA.... the paperwork would show you bought it on a certain date with 6190, but the bike would now be several weeks older and have over 7500 at the time of inspection....
The other potential issue is the paperwork shows when you officially brought it into CA. You may already have that date on paper, and that would need to be changed...
It is not against the law for a CA resident to own a non CA certified bike out of state. It is just that a CA resident cannot register a new bike (less than 7500 miles) from out of state, in CA, unless it is CA certified or over 7500 miles.
Currently, the only difference between a 50 states bikes (EPA cert) and a CA certified bike is that the CA cert meets EPA plus it has a charcoal filter for the gas tank vent.
In the past, there were big differences (HP, cam, and others). They even called them 49 state bikes (EPA cert) v 50 state bikes (EPA & CA cert). These registration rules were enacted to keep people from avoiding the CA requirements altogether, by just buying a new bike across a state border and then bring it to CA.
good luck
I don't think it matters what the seller put on the paperwork. As long as it has 7500 before you register it.
For example, if you bought it and then drove it out of state for awhile and/or drove it to CA.... the paperwork would show you bought it on a certain date with 6190, but the bike would now be several weeks older and have over 7500 at the time of inspection....
The other potential issue is the paperwork shows when you officially brought it into CA. You may already have that date on paper, and that would need to be changed...
It is not against the law for a CA resident to own a non CA certified bike out of state. It is just that a CA resident cannot register a new bike (less than 7500 miles) from out of state, in CA, unless it is CA certified or over 7500 miles.
Currently, the only difference between a 50 states bikes (EPA cert) and a CA certified bike is that the CA cert meets EPA plus it has a charcoal filter for the gas tank vent.
In the past, there were big differences (HP, cam, and others). They even called them 49 state bikes (EPA cert) v 50 state bikes (EPA & CA cert). These registration rules were enacted to keep people from avoiding the CA requirements altogether, by just buying a new bike across a state border and then bring it to CA.
good luck
Thanks for the info Hattitude!
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I talked to the DMV again, they said I have to register my bike in Ohio where it came from, put on the milage, and then register it at the CA DMV where I live. Thank God Ohio has out of state registration. CA is so f*cked up. Can't wait to retire out of this hell hole.
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I talked to the DMV again, they said I have to register my bike in Ohio where it came from, put on the milage, and then register it at the CA DMV where I live. Thank God Ohio has out of state registration. CA is so f*cked up. Can't wait to retire out of this hell hole.
I went through this about 17 months ago with a bike I had bought in Indiana.
I believe there is a place on the registration paperwork where you can annotate that the odometer is not showing the correct mileage. You can check that part of the form and enter the correct mileage, which will be used for registration purposes.
You never know, maybe she was rebuilt at 3,000 miles. Saves you the cost of dual registration.