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i have a 07 softail standard ,i want to go with the 2 inch baffles for my rush mufflers i have the 1.75 now and want a little louder sound ,i asked the dealer about tuning and if i needed to tune ,he told me to get the baffles and ride it around for a couple miles and take out the plugs and if there white you needed to get it dynoed and tuned i asked about how much that would cost ?? he told me about 800 bucks ..does that sound right or should i go to a local shop and get it done ??? thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!!
That would be why dealers are nicknamed "stealers"...that is freakin' ridiculous!! I'd find somewhere else to go...BUT, you're running aftermarket pipes already...did you have a tuner installed or did you get is remapped once already?
You should not need to retune, but if you do, purchase a PCIII or a T-Max auto tune and do it yourself. Then if you decide to (and you will) install other mods you don't have to shell out more hard earned money to continuously take it to the dealer for retuning. Even if you leave your bike stock, the two above mentioned will improve performance and allow you to make necessary adjustment with different mapping options.
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PCIII is the way to go and like tbenson said you can tune it yourself. Even if you want someone else to tune it the normal cost for a fully custom map is around $200.
The Thunder Maz is a better way to go.
It won't cost you any more than an $800 stealer tune up and you can tune it yourself.
Because it uses the wide band O2 sensors it will continuously retuneitself for different conditions.
If you ever plan to ride your bike cross country it will automaticly compensatefor differentatmospheric conditions where astock ECM or PCIII won't. For example if you live and had you bike properly tuned in a place like Denver (at 5000 feet) and want to ride your bike to the Pacific Ocean the stock ECM or PCIII systems will just make the bike run a little rich. But if you had it done at sea level and try to go the other way by the time you get to Denverit could easily be running way toolean.
Personally I think the factory engineers made a mistake in not upgrading the FI system to aMAS air system similar to that used on todays cars rather than sticking with theolder MAP based system. If they had we probably wouldn't be having this discusion at all.
From: Retired and living in the mountains of NE PA
RE: 800 bucks for tuning???
ORIGINAL: Citoriplus
Personally I think the factory engineers made a mistake in not upgrading the FI system to aMAS air system similar to that used on todays cars rather than sticking with theolder MAP based system. If they had we probably wouldn't be having this discusion at all.
Well, we would still be having this discussion, because most if not all car MAF sensors (Mass Air Flow) are working in combination with narrow band O2 sensors same as the '07 Harleys come equipped with and which aren't worth a damn for tuning purposes. We routinely eliminated these O2 sensors on the C5 Corvettes we tuned, replacing them with sensor simulators. This is exactly what the '07 Dynojet Power Commanders do. A MAF sensor w/o wideband sensors offers no big improvement over the current setup,but it does make for one more thing to go bad and they're costly to replace. I'm glad our bikes don't use them.
P.S.- $800 is an obscene amount of money to charge for tuning a bike.
Oh crap...ok, which one is the better way to go? LOL I see the pros and cons for each one, but for those of us that are not mechanically inclinded...kinda hard to tell.
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