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Old Dec 10, 2018 | 11:08 AM
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I have a 2012 Blackline with a 103. It came with a SE performance Air Cleaner and V&H big radius 2-2. I put on a dyno jet tuner and had it dynoed and got 89 horse and 99 torque. but it has no passing power at 4k, I put on SE255 cams based on the recommendation of the service writer that it would get me a longer top end so i would get the passing power i was looking for. but the dyno chart i was looking at was for a bagger and not the 103B with the balancer's. I ended up with the exact same curve i had, just higher, 85 HP and 106 TQ but the same RPM band. Looking for thoughts on if I should use a different CAM or if I should just stick with what I got, i was told the 255 is actually too small for the 103 and I should go with Andrews 57 for the 103 and it is appropriately sized. Thoughts?
 
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Old Dec 10, 2018 | 02:19 PM
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You're not that far from Fuel Moto - give Jamie a call and let him set you up - won't be sorry like the dealer made you feel.

https://www.fuelmotousa.com/
 
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Old Dec 10, 2018 | 02:29 PM
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yeah, i called them after i posted this, he said the issue isnt the cam, it my exhaust. V&H big radius 2-2 is the worst exhaust for performance. it looks great and sounds good, but really kills the performance and the HP and TQ fall off fast. Said Fuelmoto wouldn't even work on my bike unless i agreed to do a better exhaust. Also said the cam is a great cam if i dont want to do a big bore kit and just changing my exhaust will get me what im looking for... so exhaust shopping I will go!!
 
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Thoughts? Drop a gear and WOT will send you on down the road.? But again, I am still wondering what you are trying to pass at 4K if in 6th
 

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Old Dec 10, 2018 | 03:12 PM
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its every gear, motor just loses power at about 4k.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2018 | 03:23 PM
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Does a V&H big radius 2-2 have a crossover to help empty exhaust in the opposed fired cylinder like a stock system?
 
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Does a V&H big radius 2-2 have a crossover to help empty exhaust in the opposed fired cylinder like a stock system?
No, just two pipes.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2018 | 04:36 PM
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Those pipes are def for looks an sounds. an exhaust change an retune might cure it...or if there's no baffles at all in the V&H pipes some torque cones might help too.

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Originally Posted by laalow
yeah, i called them after i posted this, he said the issue isnt the cam, it my exhaust. V&H big radius 2-2 is the worst exhaust for performance. it looks great and sounds good, but really kills the performance and the HP and TQ fall off fast. Said Fuelmoto wouldn't even work on my bike unless i agreed to do a better exhaust. Also said the cam is a great cam if i dont want to do a big bore kit and just changing my exhaust will get me what im looking for... so exhaust shopping I will go!!
What exhaust are you thinking about?
Did FuelMoto steer you in any direction?
 
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Looking at the Road Rage or the pro-pipe. They have pretty close to the same look, the pro-pipe seems to have a bit more to it. I'm really just starting to look into exhausts, never knew how much they change the performance of the bike. Fuel Moto recommended both of them as well as a few others, the only thing they were solid on was a 2 into 1, They did say if i swing down and pick one up from them they will give me a free map for the bike that I can just plug and play.

So I guess this post is now an Exhaust post, any recommendations?
 

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