Guns and rides
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From: Ozark Country
RE: Guns and rides
ORIGINAL: bensonjv
More interesting to me than who is carrying would be a poll to find out of those who do, who has used it, how many times, and why.
More interesting to me than who is carrying would be a poll to find out of those who do, who has used it, how many times, and why.
Well, on second thought, from some of the stuff I've read maybe they would. LoL...
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RE: Guns and rides
I have it first of all because it is my right. I have second of all because generally the bad guys usually carry them. I do not find it a big issue. It is kind of like liability insurance it is there just in case.
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RE: Guns and rides
ORIGINAL: Citoriplus
Well that lets me out, no way that New York is going to honor ANYBODY elses CCW. Hell they had to pass a special law to allow the competetors for the Olympicsto bring theirown guns.
Well that lets me out, no way that New York is going to honor ANYBODY elses CCW. Hell they had to pass a special law to allow the competetors for the Olympicsto bring theirown guns.
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From: Rochester, NY
RE: Guns and rides
ORIGINAL: DaveJ
With a username like Citoriplus, it sounds like you live in the wrong state!
With a username like Citoriplus, it sounds like you live in the wrong state!
Besides it kind of 'tweeks' the lefties nose's when they finally figure it out.
BTW When I really wanna tweek their noses I tell them I not only like, use, and own a bunch of guns.
I also drive a pickup and ride a Harley.
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From: Yucca valley
RE: Guns and rides
If I'm going to be gone overnight I'll carry one of my Glocks. Living in the "People's Republic of California" and not having a CCW yet ,I disassemble it and carry the frame locked in a case with the slide group, magazines (unloaded) and cartridges in seperate bags. When I get to my destination I re-assemble it . I'm not worried about an on the road gun fight but like the security in a motel room. Also, I ride with LEO friends alot so they can handle anything unexpected.
Tourer
Joined: Jul 2006
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From: Bartlett, TN
RE: Guns and rides
Man, I just don't get the whole "Guns-N-Harleys" thing. What's the point? Are you implying you as gun carriers are prepared for a gunfight that will allegadly happen for sure? Are you ready to commit murder if someoneattempts to stealyour Harley? For cripes sake it's a friggin bike! You willing to die for a Harley?Are you trying to thwart a robbery or mugging by shooting someone? You live by the sword you die by it.....Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. TrainedLaw enforcement, and military persons, well I can accept those individuals carrying, but some of you pistol packin' civillian cowboys that seem to be just looking for an excuse to pull a trigger, eventually trouble will find you..... Sorry, these are strictly just my opinions......you guys do what you need to do.....
Here is my response: “Do what you need to do”!!
Quote: “Are you implying you as gun carriers are prepared for a gunfight that will allegedly happen for sure?”
My answer: I am an assistant instructor here www.rangmaster.com and we have 2 to 3 students involved in real GUNFIGHTS a year. All of them were ruled justified.
Quote: “Are you ready to commit murder if someone attempts to steal your Harley?”
My answer: In my state you must reasonably believe that your in fear of being killed or seriously injured. No I won’t shoot anybody attempting to steal my Harley( when I get one) but I will if in the process the perp threatens me, or my family with death or serious injury.
Quote: “ For cripes sake it’s a friggin bike!!
My answer: You are correct that it is a friggin bike and insurance will replace it. and in that instance I will be a good wittnes unless the perp threatens me.
Quote: “ You willing to die for a Harley?”
My answer: No I am not, as explained above if I am threatened with death of serious bodily injury I will defend myself.
Quote: “ Are you trying to thwart a robbery or mugging by shooting someone?
My answer: If it is me, my wife, kids, family and they are being threatened with death or serious injury yes. If it is somebody else I will be a good witness for PD.
Quote: “You live by the sword you die by it.....Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. TrainedLaw enforcement, and military persons, well I can accept those individuals carrying, but some of you pistol packin' civillian cowboys that seem to be just looking for an excuse to pull a trigger, eventually trouble will find you..... Sorry, these are strictly just my opinions......you guys do what you need to do.....”
My answer: This whole paragraph is full of ignorant statements it is funny ( not funny ha ha, but funny sad) LEOs are required on average to requalify every 6 months and most pass with flying colors, but there are a few that still need help. Military on the whole have very little handgun training, most being familiarization, and cleaning. Unless they are in units requiring handgun use. NYPD in one year discharged 1100 rds. Killed approx. 60 perps, 11 bystanders, and 4 cops!
Are there some rogue permit holders out there? So far if there are it has been less than ½ of 1 % of the permit population.
You might do a little research on the subject, I think you will find most of your opinions are invalid.
Here is my response: “Do what you need to do”!!
Quote: “Are you implying you as gun carriers are prepared for a gunfight that will allegedly happen for sure?”
My answer: I am an assistant instructor here www.rangmaster.com and we have 2 to 3 students involved in real GUNFIGHTS a year. All of them were ruled justified.
Quote: “Are you ready to commit murder if someone attempts to steal your Harley?”
My answer: In my state you must reasonably believe that your in fear of being killed or seriously injured. No I won’t shoot anybody attempting to steal my Harley( when I get one) but I will if in the process the perp threatens me, or my family with death or serious injury.
Quote: “ For cripes sake it’s a friggin bike!!
My answer: You are correct that it is a friggin bike and insurance will replace it. and in that instance I will be a good wittnes unless the perp threatens me.
Quote: “ You willing to die for a Harley?”
My answer: No I am not, as explained above if I am threatened with death of serious bodily injury I will defend myself.
Quote: “ Are you trying to thwart a robbery or mugging by shooting someone?
My answer: If it is me, my wife, kids, family and they are being threatened with death or serious injury yes. If it is somebody else I will be a good witness for PD.
Quote: “You live by the sword you die by it.....Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. TrainedLaw enforcement, and military persons, well I can accept those individuals carrying, but some of you pistol packin' civillian cowboys that seem to be just looking for an excuse to pull a trigger, eventually trouble will find you..... Sorry, these are strictly just my opinions......you guys do what you need to do.....”
My answer: This whole paragraph is full of ignorant statements it is funny ( not funny ha ha, but funny sad) LEOs are required on average to requalify every 6 months and most pass with flying colors, but there are a few that still need help. Military on the whole have very little handgun training, most being familiarization, and cleaning. Unless they are in units requiring handgun use. NYPD in one year discharged 1100 rds. Killed approx. 60 perps, 11 bystanders, and 4 cops!
Are there some rogue permit holders out there? So far if there are it has been less than ½ of 1 % of the permit population.
You might do a little research on the subject, I think you will find most of your opinions are invalid.
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Road Master
Joined: May 2007
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From: Va
RE: Guns and rides
I don`t have my bike yet but have a CCP here in Va and yes my Colt Defender 45 acp is like my American Express-I don`t leave home well you know the rest.
Oh and I will not travel and spend money in states that don`t honor my rights and CCP.
Oh and I will not travel and spend money in states that don`t honor my rights and CCP.
Road Captain
Joined: Nov 2006
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From: SE New Hampshire
RE: Guns and rides
ORIGINAL: pmedic433
Man, I just don't get the whole "Guns-N-Harleys" thing. What's the point? Are you implying you as gun carriers are prepared for a gunfight that will allegadly happen for sure? Are you ready to commit murder if someoneattempts to stealyour Harley? For cripes sake it's a friggin bike! You willing to die for a Harley?Are you trying to thwart a robbery or mugging by shooting someone? You live by the sword you die by it.....Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. TrainedLaw enforcement, and military persons, well I can accept those individuals carrying, but some of you pistol packin' civillian cowboys that seem to be just looking for an excuse to pull a trigger, eventually trouble will find you..... Sorry, these are strictly just my opinions......you guys do what you need to do.....
Here is my response: “Do what you need to do”!!
Quote: “Are you implying you as gun carriers are prepared for a gunfight that will allegedly happen for sure?”
My answer: I am an assistant instructor here www.rangmaster.com and we have 2 to 3 students involved in real GUNFIGHTS a year. All of them were ruled justified.
Quote: “Are you ready to commit murder if someone attempts to steal your Harley?”
My answer: In my state you must reasonably believe that your in fear of being killed or seriously injured. No I won’t shoot anybody attempting to steal my Harley( when I get one) but I will if in the process the perp threatens me, or my family with death or serious injury.
Quote: “ For cripes sake it’s a friggin bike!!
My answer: You are correct that it is a friggin bike and insurance will replace it. and in that instance I will be a good wittnes unless the perp threatens me.
Quote: “ You willing to die for a Harley?”
My answer: No I am not, as explained above if I am threatened with death of serious bodily injury I will defend myself.
Quote: “ Are you trying to thwart a robbery or mugging by shooting someone?
My answer: If it is me, my wife, kids, family and they are being threatened with death or serious injury yes. If it is somebody else I will be a good witness for PD.
Quote: “You live by the sword you die by it.....Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. TrainedLaw enforcement, and military persons, well I can accept those individuals carrying, but some of you pistol packin' civillian cowboys that seem to be just looking for an excuse to pull a trigger, eventually trouble will find you..... Sorry, these are strictly just my opinions......you guys do what you need to do.....”
My answer: This whole paragraph is full of ignorant statements it is funny ( not funny ha ha, but funny sad) LEOs are required on average to requalify every 6 months and most pass with flying colors, but there are a few that still need help. Military on the whole have very little handgun training, most being familiarization, and cleaning. Unless they are in units requiring handgun use. NYPD in one year discharged 1100 rds. Killed approx. 60 perps, 11 bystanders, and 4 cops!
Are there some rogue permit holders out there? So far if there are it has been less than ½ of 1 % of the permit population.
You might do a little research on the subject, I think you will find most of your opinions are invalid.
Man, I just don't get the whole "Guns-N-Harleys" thing. What's the point? Are you implying you as gun carriers are prepared for a gunfight that will allegadly happen for sure? Are you ready to commit murder if someoneattempts to stealyour Harley? For cripes sake it's a friggin bike! You willing to die for a Harley?Are you trying to thwart a robbery or mugging by shooting someone? You live by the sword you die by it.....Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. TrainedLaw enforcement, and military persons, well I can accept those individuals carrying, but some of you pistol packin' civillian cowboys that seem to be just looking for an excuse to pull a trigger, eventually trouble will find you..... Sorry, these are strictly just my opinions......you guys do what you need to do.....
Here is my response: “Do what you need to do”!!
Quote: “Are you implying you as gun carriers are prepared for a gunfight that will allegedly happen for sure?”
My answer: I am an assistant instructor here www.rangmaster.com and we have 2 to 3 students involved in real GUNFIGHTS a year. All of them were ruled justified.
Quote: “Are you ready to commit murder if someone attempts to steal your Harley?”
My answer: In my state you must reasonably believe that your in fear of being killed or seriously injured. No I won’t shoot anybody attempting to steal my Harley( when I get one) but I will if in the process the perp threatens me, or my family with death or serious injury.
Quote: “ For cripes sake it’s a friggin bike!!
My answer: You are correct that it is a friggin bike and insurance will replace it. and in that instance I will be a good wittnes unless the perp threatens me.
Quote: “ You willing to die for a Harley?”
My answer: No I am not, as explained above if I am threatened with death of serious bodily injury I will defend myself.
Quote: “ Are you trying to thwart a robbery or mugging by shooting someone?
My answer: If it is me, my wife, kids, family and they are being threatened with death or serious injury yes. If it is somebody else I will be a good witness for PD.
Quote: “You live by the sword you die by it.....Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. TrainedLaw enforcement, and military persons, well I can accept those individuals carrying, but some of you pistol packin' civillian cowboys that seem to be just looking for an excuse to pull a trigger, eventually trouble will find you..... Sorry, these are strictly just my opinions......you guys do what you need to do.....”
My answer: This whole paragraph is full of ignorant statements it is funny ( not funny ha ha, but funny sad) LEOs are required on average to requalify every 6 months and most pass with flying colors, but there are a few that still need help. Military on the whole have very little handgun training, most being familiarization, and cleaning. Unless they are in units requiring handgun use. NYPD in one year discharged 1100 rds. Killed approx. 60 perps, 11 bystanders, and 4 cops!
Are there some rogue permit holders out there? So far if there are it has been less than ½ of 1 % of the permit population.
You might do a little research on the subject, I think you will find most of your opinions are invalid.