Sucks...always somthing.
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RE: Sucks...always somthing.
I doubt it hurt anything. If the plugs look just a little blacker than normal I wouldn't worry about it especially after you have run a couple of tanks of the good stuff through. "IF" it was going to do anything 'bad' it would have done so by now.
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I'M with ROCKERHEAD, I would fill it with Premium and even put some octane boost in, just a jigger or two, then take that bad boy out on the big road and drive it as fast as you dare, and as far, and please do not get a ticket or have a wreak, but get it on good highway and try to go 70 or 80 and blow all that crud out and before you go home stop and fill it with 93 octane if you can, I would put gas in it after every time you rode it! GOOD LUCK!! PURPLE HAZE.
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RE: Sucks...always somthing.
I saw somewhere on another Forum where someone had a simular problem. They were told not to worry if they checked the plugs and topped off the tank with as much low test (low octane) gas as possible, NOT high test. I think they said that the deisel has a higher octane rating (along with it being dirtier/oilier), so you want to flush it out with the cheap low octane gas. I think the octane booster would be overkill. Can anyone confirm this?
I know a lot of the time we all assume high octane to be a 'fix' forvarious problems,but I have often heard otherwise. I am new to Harleys so I am not sure about weather or not a stock one would need high test. For example, my 1995 Ducati 900ss (900cc v-twin performance sport bike) loves the cheap low octane stuff, and it is reccommended by the Ducati mechanics. Just thinking out loud.... -Todd
I know a lot of the time we all assume high octane to be a 'fix' forvarious problems,but I have often heard otherwise. I am new to Harleys so I am not sure about weather or not a stock one would need high test. For example, my 1995 Ducati 900ss (900cc v-twin performance sport bike) loves the cheap low octane stuff, and it is reccommended by the Ducati mechanics. Just thinking out loud.... -Todd
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Some free (always worth what you pay for it) legal advise ... get the manager to commit to the diesel story on paper if at all possible. You don't have to have HD look at the bike, but you want to document the incident. If you've not thrown away your gas receipt then set it somewhere safe so you can prove you bought on that day and time from that pump. Otherwise make sure they commit to you on the sale.
Another legal issue ... you have an obligation to "mitigate" any damages to the bike. In other words, even if the foul-up (pun intended) by the gas retailer/wholesaler/refinery can be documented you can not simply let the problem go unitl it gets worse. This may be the reason you get HD (or another certified) mechanic to look at the bike.
If running the gas/diesel left residue then you'll need to get it taken care of properly (which may be draining the tank, lines, etc.) and not just running it out. In other words, if there is a little or no damage now, and you run it out which then causes more damage, the retailer/wholesaler may claim that your later actions are the true cause of your injury. So, you'll want to be able to document not only the incident but also the problems you are having now as well as those in the future (assuming it's corrected).
Long and short of it ... you have two issues to be concerned with. First, what actions to take to lessen or restrict damage to the bike. Second, what actions to take to protect yourself legally. I'll leave the first one to the mechanics on the site, but as for the second one I'd say that it's time to be careful in your documentation and actions.
Good luck to you.
Another legal issue ... you have an obligation to "mitigate" any damages to the bike. In other words, even if the foul-up (pun intended) by the gas retailer/wholesaler/refinery can be documented you can not simply let the problem go unitl it gets worse. This may be the reason you get HD (or another certified) mechanic to look at the bike.
If running the gas/diesel left residue then you'll need to get it taken care of properly (which may be draining the tank, lines, etc.) and not just running it out. In other words, if there is a little or no damage now, and you run it out which then causes more damage, the retailer/wholesaler may claim that your later actions are the true cause of your injury. So, you'll want to be able to document not only the incident but also the problems you are having now as well as those in the future (assuming it's corrected).
Long and short of it ... you have two issues to be concerned with. First, what actions to take to lessen or restrict damage to the bike. Second, what actions to take to protect yourself legally. I'll leave the first one to the mechanics on the site, but as for the second one I'd say that it's time to be careful in your documentation and actions.
Good luck to you.
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Well...Set out earlier today to run a tank or so of fuel through it and only made it 32 miles until the engine siezed up.
Just kidding. I went on a long trip with the Mrs and put about a tank and a half through it. As I've been working through the tanks of good fuel I noticed that the occasional ping at half-WOT has totally subsided now. Pulled the plugs a little bit ago and they were fine.
I have a meeting with the manager on Monday and will definetly be documenting all aspects. I'm sure it'll be a hassle getting them to sign off on any liability.
Thanks again for all the input!
Just kidding. I went on a long trip with the Mrs and put about a tank and a half through it. As I've been working through the tanks of good fuel I noticed that the occasional ping at half-WOT has totally subsided now. Pulled the plugs a little bit ago and they were fine.
I have a meeting with the manager on Monday and will definetly be documenting all aspects. I'm sure it'll be a hassle getting them to sign off on any liability.
Thanks again for all the input!
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I would be worried about the fuel injectors or jets (yours is fuel injected right). I think I would invest in replacement of the plugs, flushing the fuel system and cleaning the injectors.
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ORIGINAL: Strgzr
GOT ME!!!
GOT ME!!!
Sorry, couldn't resist
After riding it a bit more this afternoon I really don't think that there is anything left in the system, it's running like it's supposed to. Yes, it is fuel injected but I doubt that it clogged them up, to little to quick. I think I'll go one more tank with a little SeaFoam and then replace the plugs and call it quits.
Thanks again.