Just wondering if someone can tell me if my 2000 carbed Softail has one of those TSSM modules which are now obsolete from HD.
I know the EFI has it in 2000 but not sure if the carb motor has it as well.
Thanks for the help

 

The 2000 Softails all have the predecessor to the TSM/TSSM (which started on the Softails in 2001). The 2000 softails use the #68540-96 Turn Signal Module.

Note: The Softail models did't get EFI until 2001. They were the first to get the Delphi EFI system....

 

Thanks Hattitude,
From information I am reading, the Softails equipped with the TSM/TSSM suffer major starting issues if it fails. Is this an issue because it is tied into the security system.
Does this issue affect the 2000 Softail as well? I know very little about EFI and the security system but I am trying to learn more even though my bike is not EFI.
Your posts are always welcome and helpful on this forum!

 

Do you have the OEM service manual? THat will answer your questions on how the system works.

Do you have a FOB with your bike? DO you have to enter codes to start the bike? No FOB and no codes means no TSSM and only TSM.

 

Are you trying to solve a problem, maybe we can help?

 

Thank you for the replies. No I am not dealing with a problem now, my bike runs fine for an old girl.
I am however trying to determine if the unavailability of certain modules due to obsoletion by HD will affect my carbed bike down the road.
My bike is nearly 25 years old and runs perfectly. I am gradually purchasing components as I find them available for use in the future, nothing works forever.

 

As I understand it, being that you have a carbed bike, you are better off than an EFI bike if you should develop a problem with your TSSM.

With a carbed bike that has an ICM instead of an ECM, there is no need to go through the hell they call "password learning" if you swap TSSM modules.

On your bike you could gamble on a used TSM or TSSM from eBay and just plug it in to see if it works. You would be able to do the same with an aftermarket module. I haven't done much research on any aftermarket modules, but I have read there are some basic ones that could work, and supposedly some others "being developed". But that is all second hand from my memory.

Here is a chart from my '01 or '03 Factory Electronic Diagnostic Manual (both years had the same chart). It shows what changes need to go through the password learning procedure. Note that any TSSM (turn signal module w/security) change needs to also go through FOB & personal code assignment, regardless of carb/EFI.




I have an '03 EFI softail and an '01 carb softail, both with TSSMs.... So far (knock on wood) neither has had a problem.I admit that it has been years since I have activated the security on either of them. I kind of wish I had bought a back-up TSM for both many years ago.

Electrical stuff is not my strong suit, so I'll cross that bridge when I come to it..

 

Thanks Hattitude
You have given me an answer to every question/concern I have regarding my 2000FLSTC. Hopefully the care that she received from the original owner combined with the low mileage (40k) will help keep her in good shape. I am also very inept at diagnosing electrical problems. I am going to do good diligence looking for a backup TSM, however, not a fan of purchasing used components from Ebay. We will just cross our fingers that part of the bike stays healthy. I guess not having a FOB for me is priceless, Passwords and I just never get along.
Thank you for always getting to the point effectively.

 

I have a carb. 2001 FXSTD and have had the issue of a failed TSM this past year. There is currently NOT an aftermarket company that makes a STOCK replacement TSM for your bike. You can buy a replacement from NAMZ however, they require the use of an aftermarket ignition system. Custom Dynamics is in the process of making a TSM for stock replacement (for stock ignition modules) but they are not on the market yet. If your module fails, you will not be able to start your bike. Hope this helps.

 

Thanks Eviltwin for the reply
I believe the TSM is ok, the bike starts and runs fine. now looking at the VSS sensor bolted into the tranny.
The problem I am having is directional work but don't cancel, speedometer lights but doesn't show speed , engine light stays on. I am hoping the new VSS sensor will fix the problem.
Did your failed TSM show any of the signs I just mentioned. If you find out any info regarding the new TSM coming out please let me know.
I have had great help from the forum with my bike's problem.