Who's got a jockey shift?
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From: ST. Louis
RE: Who's got a jockey shift?
I didn't mean to offend anyone I just thought it sounds dangerous, especially driving around and in parking areas, around other cars who don't really pay much attention to us one motorcycles.....and you'd have to make a quick stop while dodging cars.
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From: Simpsonville, SC
RE: Who's got a jockey shift?
I think the auto-clutch and jockey shifter sounds like it would be a pretty good idea, like coyotedustr said. I've never ridden with a foot clutch or a jockey shift, but I've thought about addin' one before. I just wasn't so sure about the foot clutch. I was thinkin' about doin' one with the clutch on the shifter. But I'd never thought about the auto-clutch and jockey shift setup. I think that sounds pretty cool.
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RE: Who's got a jockey shift?
An acquaintance of mine, converted his softail over to one. Had a WW II bayonet that he converted to the shifter.
Of course he's kinda a little tetched, with theOutlaw thing too. Not that it's a bad thing, just not for me.
Definitely a theft deterrent though, if that's a consideration.
Of course he's kinda a little tetched, with theOutlaw thing too. Not that it's a bad thing, just not for me.
Definitely a theft deterrent though, if that's a consideration.
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From: Woodstock, Ont , Can
RE: Who's got a jockey shift?
Rode a 47 knuckle chopper for a couple of years. It was the rocker clutch but friction device was lacking. I found the nuetral thing works fine. This is with the direct off the tranny, as in no ratchet top. Got a feel for the clicks and shifter travel for all the gears. The only other thing was you wanted a good roll before left turns so some planning was involved when waiting for cars or following one also making the left turn.No big deal otherwise.Come to think of it, nobody asked to ride it
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RE: Who's got a jockey shift?
ORIGINAL: rbabos
Rode a 47 knuckle chopper for a couple of years. It was the rocker clutch but friction device was lacking. I found the nuetral thing works fine. This is with the direct off the tranny, as in no ratchet top. Got a feel for the clicks and shifter travel for all the gears. The only other thing was you wanted a good roll before left turns so some planning was involved when waiting for cars or following one also making the left turn. No big deal otherwise. Come to think of it, nobody asked to ride it
Ron
Rode a 47 knuckle chopper for a couple of years. It was the rocker clutch but friction device was lacking. I found the nuetral thing works fine. This is with the direct off the tranny, as in no ratchet top. Got a feel for the clicks and shifter travel for all the gears. The only other thing was you wanted a good roll before left turns so some planning was involved when waiting for cars or following one also making the left turn. No big deal otherwise. Come to think of it, nobody asked to ride it
Ron
It is also advised (I don't know this from experience mind you) to leave fat girls off the back as that can quickly spell trouble. I've had to make emergency stops a few times and the bike just stalls... What happens of you panic and dump the clutch to put your foot down? It stalls- BFD. If all the controversy is over potentially dropping the bike, how many get dropped with hand clutches? If you suck riding, you're gonna get into trouble regardless of the set up. Granted, to ride suicide well and safely, it is seriously advised that you've got some miles under your belt.
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RE: Who's got a jockey shift?
ORIGINAL: G5jive
Absolutely, planning is the key and it's best to leave the sumbitch in neutral at any stop until you are 100% committed to rolling. Sitting at a stop light with your foot holdin the clutch is a waaaay bad idea. But how many times has your bike started to fall over to the left side after you are rolling? Come on. Try put your foot down then- your going to the hospital for a cast quickly.
It is also advised (I don't know this from experience mind you) to leave fat girls off the back as that can quickly spell trouble. I've had to make emergency stops a few times and the bike just stalls... What happens of you panic and dump the clutch to put your foot down? It stalls- BFD. If all the controversy is over potentially dropping the bike, how many get dropped with hand clutches? If you suck riding, you're gonna get into trouble regardless of the set up. Granted, to ride suicide well and safely, it is seriously advised that you've got some miles under your belt.
ORIGINAL: rbabos
Rode a 47 knuckle chopper for a couple of years. It was the rocker clutch but friction device was lacking. I found the nuetral thing works fine. This is with the direct off the tranny, as in no ratchet top. Got a feel for the clicks and shifter travel for all the gears. The only other thing was you wanted a good roll before left turns so some planning was involved when waiting for cars or following one also making the left turn. No big deal otherwise. Come to think of it, nobody asked to ride it
Ron
Rode a 47 knuckle chopper for a couple of years. It was the rocker clutch but friction device was lacking. I found the nuetral thing works fine. This is with the direct off the tranny, as in no ratchet top. Got a feel for the clicks and shifter travel for all the gears. The only other thing was you wanted a good roll before left turns so some planning was involved when waiting for cars or following one also making the left turn. No big deal otherwise. Come to think of it, nobody asked to ride it
Ron
It is also advised (I don't know this from experience mind you) to leave fat girls off the back as that can quickly spell trouble. I've had to make emergency stops a few times and the bike just stalls... What happens of you panic and dump the clutch to put your foot down? It stalls- BFD. If all the controversy is over potentially dropping the bike, how many get dropped with hand clutches? If you suck riding, you're gonna get into trouble regardless of the set up. Granted, to ride suicide well and safely, it is seriously advised that you've got some miles under your belt.
Ron
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RE: Who's got a jockey shift?
Boy howdy! Ain't we havin' fun?
Some of y'all need to tone down the butt-chewin'.
Some of y'all need to learn how to offer advice without being condescending or offensive. I usually give this portion a bit more leeway 'cause it's the internet and ya can't see facial expressions or hear voice tone.
Anyway ...
I'm a 35 year rider. Over 27 years of that have been on foot clutch and hand shift bikes. Some of it was a rocker clutch and a frame-mounted hand shift (3 speed forward + reverse tranny, too), and some has been on a suicide clutch with both a hand shift off the top motor mount and also a jockey shift.
I seldom even try to find neutral before a stop. If I'm going to be at a stop for any length of time I might snick it into neutral sometimes. The one and only time I had trouble was the first time THE MAMA rode on the pad with the suicide. We stopped at the back of the pack and she leaned over my left shoulder to ask me something. I had to drop my clutch foot down and stall the bike to keep from dumping it. After I gave her a small piece of advice things were OK. Have been ever since.
If you want to go the suicide clutch and hand/jockey shift, go for it. Set it up however you want. Put the clutch lever on the shift lever if you want. It's your bike and if someone else doesn't like it, that's their problem.
last note: The guys I know runnin' suicides seem to have better balance. Probably a little bit of mini-evolution going on.
Some of y'all need to tone down the butt-chewin'.
Some of y'all need to learn how to offer advice without being condescending or offensive. I usually give this portion a bit more leeway 'cause it's the internet and ya can't see facial expressions or hear voice tone.
Anyway ...
I'm a 35 year rider. Over 27 years of that have been on foot clutch and hand shift bikes. Some of it was a rocker clutch and a frame-mounted hand shift (3 speed forward + reverse tranny, too), and some has been on a suicide clutch with both a hand shift off the top motor mount and also a jockey shift.
I seldom even try to find neutral before a stop. If I'm going to be at a stop for any length of time I might snick it into neutral sometimes. The one and only time I had trouble was the first time THE MAMA rode on the pad with the suicide. We stopped at the back of the pack and she leaned over my left shoulder to ask me something. I had to drop my clutch foot down and stall the bike to keep from dumping it. After I gave her a small piece of advice things were OK. Have been ever since.
If you want to go the suicide clutch and hand/jockey shift, go for it. Set it up however you want. Put the clutch lever on the shift lever if you want. It's your bike and if someone else doesn't like it, that's their problem.
last note: The guys I know runnin' suicides seem to have better balance. Probably a little bit of mini-evolution going on.
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RE: Who's got a jockey shift?
I put a suicide clutch with a tank shift on about 8 months ago, it was a definite learning experience!! Couple of things that I learned. Always put it in neutral as you roll up to a stop. Most of the time it is easier to take off in 2nd gear rather than 1st. If your bike leans to the left when you are holding the clutch down, you're screwed. That being said... what a total blast to ride, running up through the gears under hard acceleration is too cool for words!
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RE: Who's got a jockey shift?
My next door neighbor built one for a customer and from whatI can remember he built it so the foot clutch would somehow stay down so you could take your foot off. Not sure how he put it together, but here's a pick of the bike and his site if you care to contact him. www.bitchinbaggers.com
