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Power Commanders have been in use for years. It provides an economical alternative to the HD SERT or SEST as it is called now. It is tunable or you can get a canned map for starters. The SEST will set you back about $600 plus d-tune. It has more ***** than the PCIII and nothing is added to the bike. I have no complaints with my PCIII and I am still using the canned map with some minor mods. The PCIV looks even more impressive especially since it is significantly smaller.
Kinda like taking a bike with sensors and returning it to older technology by removing the sensors from the system, unless you want to fork over more $$ for the live tuning kit as an add-on
The harley FI is hardly cutting edge. It works fine but it is not the best solution for performance.
MoparDave's is about the best I've seen short of going back to a hub speedo and a custom ECU....which I guess they autotune really is.
comon the power commander eliminates the O2 sensors this is a good thing
Power Commanders are piggy backs and they are almost never the best solution. They are terrible for my bike since the Klien ECU dual maps one for cruising and part throttle and one for "loaded conditions" when it's ridden in anger (a lot for mine). Since the PCs only account for one map for all three cylinders I won't bolt one on my bike. I don't want to choose between performance or commuting
The Tuneboy for it lets me play with timing, rev-limit, map engagement, speed limiter ect ect and for $100 more DEFINITELY improves it across the board. Of course since I have a Daytona motor in a Speed Triple, I had to do something as the airbox volumes are different enough that the PCs HAD no canned map and I'd rather tune the existing ECU then piggyback it and have one more thing to break.
All PCIII's do away with O2's. They run only with the map, the new PC is a closed loop system as is Thundermax. It's all in what you want and willing to pay $ for. I think if it wasn't for the EPA there would still be carbs on them
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I think if it wasn't for the EPA there would still be carbs on them
You are right about that, but I would still want my EFI, having experienced it first hand already. It is such an improvement in every way that I will, eventually convert my 69 Dodge over to EFI. The drivability improvements alone are worth it, not to mention the increase in fuel mileage and engine longevity.
My dealer recommended the Direct-Link over the SERT. Operates the same as the SERT and is less expensive. The Direct-link does not bypass the O2 sensors.
It's cool, I remember one time I was wrong. What happened was is I thought I was wrong and it turned out I was right. LOL
Hey mopardave, any idea how to get coffee out of my keyboard and stop the burning in my nostrils? Cripes, even my grandson came in to see what I was laughing about. Damn, what a great way to start the day.
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